Can Someone Explain To me How is Martinez close to Pac on a P4P basis???

[cixthree]

I mean what the **** with this nonsense?? I mean Martinez has not come close to what Pac has donde, Pacs resume pisses, vomits and defecates on Martinez and have won more decisevly in his biggest matches.

This is just pure nonsense, Martinez beats to guys and all of the sudden he is on top or near Manny?? Hell naw son.

Just to add, Manny didnt look goo last night because Mosley ran like a b&tch and Pac was stiff legged in there.


Another clarification I think floyd beats Manny!!!!

None of that matters, Serg had the belt at 154, was stripped, manny fought Marg for it. But Serg is still in the range of 154 and would AZZ **** Manny.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Pavlik-Lineal Middleweight Champion
Williams- Top 10 p4pounder when he beat him.
Dzinziruk- Top 154 Pounder



Are you kidding TS?

Hes P4P number 1 in my book after Pacs terrible performance.

[Doctor_Tenma]

Pavlik-Lineal Middleweight Champion
Williams- Top 10 p4pounder when he beat him.
Dzinziruk- Top 154 Pounder



Are you kidding TS?

Hes P4P number 1 in my book after Pacs terrible performance.

Even if Pacquiao looked impressive against Mosley, I still wouldn't put him over Martinez. Paul Williams, Pavlik, Dzinziruk > Clottey, Margarito, Mosley. You could even argue that Cintron > those guys.

[chiguy91]

Thats only show you the lack of good fighters that we have and its reason to worry. Once Floyd, Pacman and Marquez call it a career, boxing will look very disappointing. I wont mind either if soon they change the name of the sport with this new generation and instead of Boxing they call it "Buxiness"

you're a fucking idiot.
boxing's image in the mainstream public looks bad because all the top guys with commercial success are fighting guys who aren't even a challenge. guys like pacman and floyd can sell a match against a punching bag, so they or their promoters/advisors set up easy fights. once they retire, fighters will actually have to fight each other to build their names....only a ****** like you would think boxing is going to get worse once those types of guys leave, thank god you don't post here much

[Lords]

Pavlik-Lineal Middleweight Champion
Williams- Top 10 p4pounder when he beat him.
Dzinziruk- Top 154 Pounder



Are you kidding TS?

Hes P4P number 1 in my book after Pacs terrible performance.

I agree with this. Miss pacman is fighting cans in my book. Floyd's left over of Hatton and a weightdrained toothpick DeLaHoya, Clottey coming off a loss to Cotto, Margicheato getting knocked out by Mosley and coming off a year suspention, Mosley who Floyd whiped easy and coming off a draw to Mora, A refuse to fight Cotto at 147 for the 147 title and would only would fight him at 145 and nothing else, win. Its pretty pathetic. They refuse to fight Foreman because hes to tall yet they want to fight margicheato, why not fight Paul williams at 150 instead? Because there to pus to even mention that fight. Martinez is P4P #1

[letsgobrady]

Yeah, he didnt whoop Foreman nor MAyorga, ok then have a good night sir!!!!

he didn't especially not mayorga and foreman fight was not that impressive being how muych yuri was able to touch him.in case u didn't know pacquiao beating cotto doesn't make pacquiao puerto rican.were u a big pacquiao fan before he beat cotto?

[sdcluser]

This is just pure nonsense, Martinez beats to guys and all of the sudden he is on top or near Manny?? Hell naw son.

Just to add, Manny didnt look goo last night because Mosley ran like a b&tch and Pac was stiff legged in there.


Another clarification I think floyd beats Manny!!!!

The question is, "is Pac's stiffness permanent?"

[ChampBox@PR]

Pavlik-Lineal Middleweight Champion
Williams- Top 10 p4pounder when he beat him.
Dzinziruk- Top 154 Pounder



Are you kidding TS?

Hes P4P number 1 in my book after Pacs terrible performance.

If you go by what you said, Froch >>>>>>> MArtinez

just because you had a couple of good wins that doesnt put you as #1 P4P

he didn't especially not mayorga and foreman fight was not that impressive being how muych yuri was able to touch him.in case u didn't know pacquiao beating cotto doesn't make pacquiao puerto rican.were u a big pacquiao fan before he beat cotto?

What teh **** that has to do, with Cotto not spanking them, Cotto gets it a lot everybody knows that.


The second part is just you being a ignorant fool, have a nice night bull****ting other people!!

[Doctor_Tenma]

Pavlik and Dzinziruk may have been match ups that stylistically favored Martinez, but those two are still better opponents than Pacquiao's last 3 opponents. Just because Pacquiao has accomplished alot in the past doesn't mean that he can face mediocre opposition and still keep his spot. Martinez has faced the tougher guys as of late and has performed well.

[ChampBox@PR]

Pavlik and Dzinziruk may have been match ups that stylistically favored Martinez, but those two are still better opponents than Pacquiao's last 3 opponents. Just because he's accomplished alot in the past doesn't mean that he can face mediocre opposition and still keep his spot.

Yeah, the same can be said but in the opposite, just because you a couple of good wins and a ****ty ass resume, doenst mean you will move up just because you had 3 good wins!!!!!