If Calzaghe had been American

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  • CarlosG815
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    #51
    Originally posted by blaze778
    I think if Calzaghe was an American, he would have never gotten away with having such a crappy resume.

    Americans don't like Calzaghe not because he isn't American. Look at Pac and how huge he is in America.

    And American fans still question Pac since a few of his opponents were not at their best when he fought them, but Calzaghe fought opponents who even more obviously past it and they are called big wins by his fans.

    And look at an American fighter like Floyd. I mean he's fought and beaten way better fighters than Calzaghe, yet his resume still leaves much to be desired from American fans.

    And even a lot of prime fighters Calzaghe faced were already beaten decisively in previous fights. Guys like Brewer, Mitchell and Shieka are not big wins at all. Not that they were any good to begin with.

    Eubank, Jones, and Hopkins were all past it.

    Besides Hopkins (who arguably beat Calzaghe), Kessler is easily the best name on his resume. And he's not even a future hall of famer.
    You are spot on. Eubank, Jones, and Hopkins all destroy him in their prime. One could argue that old Bernard did beat him. Joe was an opportunist who fought big name fighters out of their prime or at the tail end of their career and still could not win big. At least when Pacquiao beat up Hatton and Oscar at the end of their careers, he did it big. He didn't struggle to a decision.

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    • Forza
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      #52
      Only in racist NSB is eubank, reid, collins, bika, RJJ, bhop, kessler, lacy, woodhall, former WBO, WBA, WBC, IBF, The Ring magazine & British super middleweight champion and Ring magazine Light-heavyweight Champion a "bum"


      lol @ this terrible racist website

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        #53
        Originally posted by EngorgedW/Blood
        About 6-7 of Johnson's losses were questionable and should have been draws at the least.


        Orlando Salido has 11 losses something like that, and that didn't stop him from owning Lopez, a guy that every one was saying was gonna steamroll Salido, and even I personally thought Lopez was gonna decision Salido. We underestimate boxers with lots of losses but you have to know the true story behind every loss to really judge the fighter. Salido hadn't been stopped since 1998, Johnson hadn't been stopped since the Hopkins fight which was a corner stoppage, and Johnson's only TKO loss, back in the 90s.
        I agree, you have to look at the whole picture when it comes to records. You have to see who they lost to, when they lost to them, whether they were robbed on the scorecards or not, etc.

        You really can't underestimate guys like Johnson and Salido for having a good number of losses.

        And really you can't give too much credit to fighters just for retiring undefeated, like Calzaghe.

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          #54


          " Yeah I got all the belts, you got one? I'll take that one too ***** "



          " damn I should have ducked him for 5 more years! "

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          • Forza
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            #55


            you like that southpaw jab soapy???? how did it feel losing to a white boy?

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              #56


              you like that southpaw jab soapy???? how did it feel losing to a white boy?

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                #57


                you like that southpaw jab soapy???? how did it feel losing to a white boy?

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                  #58


                  you like that southpaw jab soapy???? how did it feel losing to a white boy?

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by CarlosG815
                    You are spot on. Eubank, Jones, and Hopkins all destroy him in their prime. One could argue that old Bernard did beat him. Joe was an opportunist who fought big name fighters out of their prime or at the tail end of their career and still could not win big. At least when Pacquiao beat up Hatton and Oscar at the end of their careers, he did it big. He didn't struggle to a decision.

                    Carl Froch faced tougher competition in the past 2-3 years than Calzaghe faced in his entire career.

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                      #60
                      Froch lost to kessler, a guy that calzaghe mauled in his prime.

                      Don't get me wrong froch is great, but when you say " super middle weight", the only name that counts is calzaghe

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