If Calzaghe had been American

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Froch lost to kessler, a guy that calzaghe mauled in his prime.

Don't get me wrong froch is great, but when you say " super middle weight", the only name that counts is calzaghe

who's that?

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Only in racist NSB is eubank, reid, collins, bika, RJJ, bhop, kessler, lacy, woodhall, former WBO, WBA, WBC, IBF, The Ring magazine & British super middleweight champion and Ring magazine Light-heavyweight Champion a "bum"


lol @ this terrible racist website

Exactly! Suddenly guys like Brewer, Woodhall, Reid are bums. Brewer and Reid both got robbed against Ottke, both held belts, IBF and WBC respectively and both gave Joe a good fight, Reid especially.

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Froch lost to kessler, a guy that calzaghe mauled in his prime.

Don't get me wrong froch is great, but when you say " super middle weight", the only name that counts is calzaghe

I thought Froch beat Kessler. It was a close fight that could have gone either way.

Kessler was Calzaghe's best win.

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Negative, kessler is not his best win. Bhop peaked late and was coming off dominating wins, calzaghe ate him.

RJJ had just whooped tito trinidad, calzaghe demolished him

[Pastrano]

The most astonishing thing is that according to you Calzaghe haters, Bhop turned past prime for the Calzaghe fight but then went back to prime for Pavlik fight. You just needs something to excuse the fact your boy got owned.

[Swag Hustla]

Negative, kessler is not his best win. Bhop peaked late and was coming off dominating wins, calzaghe ate him.

RJJ had just whooped tito trinidad, calzaghe demolished him

I would have said so, but considering how the fight was too damn close, I would say no.

I just can't see the Hopkins win as Calzaghe's best win when he struggled against him and arguably lost?

Kessler was a very good, prime fighter who was beaten decisively.

And the Jones win was a joke. Beating an overweight, shot Tito Trinidad doesn't make Calzaghe's win over Roy any better.

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How did calzaghe lose when he won on every card by a far margin except for Chris byrd's wife ( who is black and a judge )?

It was a terrible fight, but calzaghe clearly beat him to a pulp.

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How did calzaghe lose when he won on every card by a far margin except for Chris byrd's wife ( who is black and a judge )?

It was a terrible fight, but calzaghe clearly beat him to a pulp.

He did not beat him to a pulp.

If Calzaghe really won, he won by a single point and nothing more. It was about as razor thin as you can get. Had he beaten Hopkins more decisively, that would have been Calzaghe's best win easily.

The judges liked Calzaghe's workrate over Hopkins harder, cleaner shots. There are a good number of experts who thought Hopkins barely won.

I don't think Hopkins got robbed like against Pascal as the fight was so close, but this was not Calzaghe's best performance or win.

And Chris Byrd's wife is white, and she is not a boxing judge, not that it matters.

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I bet everyone would go crazy over/about him. Thats a fact, a cold, hard fact. But since he's British/European, he gets very little respect, like Lewis before him. But in contrast to Lewis, Joe really is worthy of being called a legend. Look at Pavlik, 2 wins over Taylor and he was already the NEW BIG THING in America. Just to remind you once again, here's a list of notable boxers Joe beat, listed more or less cronologically:

Chris Eubank
Robin Reid
Richie Woodhall
Charles Brewer
Omar Sheika
Byron Mitchell
Jeff Lacy
Sakio Bika
Mikkel Kessler
Bernard Hopkins
Roy Jones

I should have sopped reading after the bolded part......

Explain to me how Calzaghe has done more than Lennox Lewis to be a legend.....

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He did not beat him to a pulp.

If Calzaghe really won, he won by a single point and nothing more. It was about as razor thin as you can get. Had he beaten Hopkins more decisively, that would have been Calzaghe's best win easily.

The judges liked Calzaghe's workrate over Hopkins harder, cleaner shots. There are a good number of experts who thought Hopkins barely won.

I don't think Hopkins got robbed like against Pascal as the fight was so close, but this was not Calzaghe's best performance or win.

And Chris Byrd's wife is white, and she is not a boxing judge, not that it matters.

What clean shots was Bhop landing? Calzaghe didnt have a scratch on his face. Alll bhop did the entire fight was hold and try to wrestle calzaghe to the ground. Typical bhop bullcrap. The fight was not close at all, calzaghe landed more punches on BHop than almost anyone in history