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  • Ogecca MaMa
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    #51
    Originally posted by Blah!
    everytime jean touched him he buckled, pascal gon ko him early on the 21st
    Dumbass, reflexes get worse with age. no more muscle(reaction) punches, tougher to be light on the feet and so on. Hating on Bernard? the guy is machine, fighting at his age and schooling young generation

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      #52
      Originally posted by kyshenko team
      Dumbass, reflexes get worse with age. no more muscle(reaction) punches, tougher to be light on the feet and so on. Hating on Bernard? the guy is machine, fighting at his age and schooling young generation
      yes im hating

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      • ИATAS
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        #53
        Originally posted by Blah!
        i would'nt know how to search for the article(or my post where i mentioned it)
        but when i posted(right after the jones fight) it i got loads of green all "lol, funny etc" like i was joking when i was being dead serious
        and then threads were made about it

        i'll try and find it for you

        EDIT(found a thread with bhop quoted, although i think i was the first to mention this in teh forums):http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...61#post7999461
        thanks for finding it.

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        • *OG Wenger*
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          #54
          Originally posted by ИATAS206
          why is that sig worthy? Did you watch the roy jones fight? he wasn't taking bombs to the back of the head they were typical light shots during clinches and he was going down from them. They said he collapsed in the locker room after the fight. Likewise the shot in the first round from Pascal was not that hard and it knocked him completely off-balance.

          I do believe at 46 years of age his balance is not the same and that could be the reason these light shots to the back of his head are causing him to hit the canvas.
          Very few people take punches to the back of the head well. Remember when Glen Johnson hit Allan Green in the back of the head at the end of the second round? He was wobbling all over the place he barely made it to his corner. Also remember iron chin Carl Froch getting hit on the back of his head by Mikkel Kessler and lost balance for a second or 2.

          Getting hit on the back of the head is almost as bad as getting hit with a square punch right on the chin it only effects you in a different way.

          Being vulnerable to an illegal rabbit punch is like saying someone is vulnerable to being shot or stabbed.
          Last edited by *OG Wenger*; 05-04-2011, 03:40 PM.

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            #55
            Originally posted by Blah!
            everytime jean touched him he buckled, pascal gon ko him early on the 21st


            This is actually an interesting question. While I don't think Hopkins has a glass chin yet, his punch resistance will decrease with age at some point. At 46 that can be exposed. Whether it will happen in this fight or down the road remains to be seen.

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              #56
              calzaghe landed 230 punches on hopkins and he took them pretty well. we all know calzaghe is a huge puncher so his chin must be iron.

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              • ИATAS
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                #57
                Originally posted by OG William
                Very few people take punches to the back of the head well. Remember when Glen Johnson hit Allan Green in the back of the head at the end of the second round? He was wobbling all over the place he barely made it to his corner. Also remember iron chin Carl Froch getting hit on the back of his head by Mikkel Kessler and lost balance for a second or 2.

                Getting hit on the back of the head is almost as bad as getting hit with a square punch right on the chin it only effects you in a different way.

                Being vulnerable to an illegal rabbit punch is like saying someone is vulnerable to being shot or stabbed.
                I am not talking about full force punches to the back of the head. Quite OBVIOUSLY those are going to do damage. What I'm referring to are the typical, usually light punches that happen in almost every fight, whether it's because a guy turns his head or it's during a clinch. Huge difference.

                If you watch the Jones-Hopkins fight, Hopkins was going down to his knees from what appeared pretty light touches to the back of his head. That's what I'm talking about.

                Let me ask you - do you think it's normal for a fighter, or hopkins, to go down about 8 times in two fights from those kinds of shots?

                This is why I think you sigging that quote is totally out of context. Deliberate rabbit punching is probalby the worst foul in boxing, I understand that completely. What I'm talking about is different.

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                  #58
                  The guys 46 its common sense a 46 year old man is not going to take punches as well as he once could but then again hes not going to be able to do most things as good as he once could.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by OG William
                    Very few people take punches to the back of the head well. Remember when Glen Johnson hit Allan Green in the back of the head at the end of the second round? He was wobbling all over the place he barely made it to his corner. Also remember iron chin Carl Froch getting hit on the back of his head by Mikkel Kessler and lost balance for a second or 2.

                    Getting hit on the back of the head is almost as bad as getting hit with a square punch right on the chin it only effects you in a different way.

                    Being vulnerable to an illegal rabbit punch is like saying someone is vulnerable to being shot or stabbed.
                    Originally posted by ИATAS206
                    I am not talking about full force punches to the back of the head. Quite OBVIOUSLY those are going to do damage. What I'm referring to are the typical, usually light punches that happen in almost every fight, whether it's because a guy turns his head or it's during a clinch. Huge difference.

                    If you watch the Jones-Hopkins fight, Hopkins was going down to his knees from what appeared pretty light touches to the back of his head. That's what I'm talking about.

                    Let me ask you - do you think it's normal for a fighter, or hopkins, to go down about 8 times in two fights from those kinds of shots?

                    This is why I think you sigging that quote is totally out of context. Deliberate rabbit punching is probalby the worst foul in boxing, I understand that completely. What I'm talking about is different.
                    No matter what way you look at it no matter the force of a rabbit punch its still an illegal punch. With a neutral and competent referee in there it makes B-Hop being vulnerable to them irrelevant.

                    Both times he got dropped by Pascal he got up and was fine wasn't wobbled or hurt and took Pascal to school so i don't even know how you can say 'vulnerable and 'Hopkins' in the same sentence.

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                    • ИATAS
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by OG William
                      No matter what way you look at it no matter the force of a rabbit punch its still an illegal punch. With a neutral and competent referee in there it makes B-Hop being vulnerable to them irrelevant.
                      You didn't answer my question: do you think it's normal for a fighter, or hopkins, to go down about 8 times in two fights from those kinds of shots?

                      Especially the Jones fight.

                      Again, you sigging that is totally out of context and you're trying to make me out as some fool that doesn't understand the dangers of rabbit punching...

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