Manny Pacquiao so called improvements

[jrosales13]

1. he wouldnt beat top guys in a welterweight if Pac has no skills or no improvement. would you like to see Cotto, Clottey and Margarito fighting a guy with only speed and see how they would do against those three guys? you all think speed alone can make you a welterweight and P4P king.

2. You will get own with this comment. Pac was never an ATG back in 2008 after the JMM fight. he got those ATG status after winning his 4th lineal title and his 6th division title against Hatton with a 2nd round destruction. no one predicted it would be that easy. YOU FAILED

so tel JRO to stop ****riding..

3. It has something to do with JMM because you all haters keep saying the JMM is skilled and Pac is not, but skills doesnt do much in boxing success. if technical skills are so important how come JM hasnt done much after the Pac fight? so you FAIL AGAIN.

the best offensive fighter in the last 10 years is Pac, if u dont call that skills i dont even know what skills are,,the guy can throw jabs, counter punch, great chin, better footwork, best ever 4-5-6 combo with power since he climbed above 130 lbs and u dont call it skills?


Miguel Cotto is not skilled boxer? is he come forward? so you have to be technician to be called skilled fighter? u can ask boxing experts and i bet you Cotto is in a category of skilled fighter.

Clottey has no power? do u even know what u talking about? he busted Cotto and almost busted Pac with fewer punches. Pac said Clottey was strong and it shows. CLOTTEY IS A DEFENSIVE COUNTER PUNCHER. watch more clottey's fight and you'll see. you probably just hating on Pac to discredit his achievements.

i mentioned Margarito because you haters keep on saying he fought come forward guys.

so my post had nothing to do with Pac's improvement? do you even know how to COMPREHEND? a guy with no or limited skills wouldnt reach Pac status. he isnt probably in the top 20? yeah probably higher? if 8 division title, 4 lineal and fighter of the decade was easy to do we'll see in the next 100 year is someone would even get close.

LOL @ this idiot saying that Pac wasn't an ATG in 08 but a win over the likes of Hatton, Cotto, Clottey and Marg jumps him up drastically to top 20. WTF?

[joelab75]

LOL @ this idiot saying that Pac wasn't an ATG in 08 but a win over the likes of Hatton, Cotto, Clottey and Marg jumps him up drastically to top 20. WTF?

ALL TIME GREAT? are u that ******? after beating JMM in a close split decision? GTFO! u dont know ***** about boxing. half the people who saw the fight thought he lost or atleast had a draw and became an ATG?

its winning another lineal and 2 more division title made him ATG..u idiot! name calling now huh? give me the list of ATG's that experts been posting and let see Pac there? you have to know how to COMPREHEND dude..nobody thought he could go 140 lbs and up to dominate because he already climbed so many divisions..he did nobody ever thought a guy like Pac can accomplished.

you would probably show me Pac was in the 90's or 100's in rankings..you are a ****in clown dude

[jrosales13]

ALL TIME GREAT? are u that ******? after beating JMM in a close split decision? GTFO! u dont know ***** about boxing. half the people who saw the fight thought he lost or atleast had a draw and became an ATG?

its winning another lineal and 2 more division title made him ATG..u idiot! name calling now huh? give me the list of ATG's that experts been posting and let see Pac there? you have to know how to COMPREHEND dude..nobody thought he could go 140 lbs and up to dominate because he already climbed so many divisions..he did nobody ever thought a guy like Pac can accomplished.

you would probably show me Pac was in the 90's or 100's in rankings..you are a ****in clown dude

So he wasn't an ATG. But, beating Hatton Cotto Clottey and Marg put him top 20 or higher right? That's what you saying right?



What an F'ing moron.

[Vadrigar.]

another **** rider?

yes you are.

[joelab75]

So he wasn't an ATG. But, beating Hatton Cotto Clottey and Marg put him top 20 or higher right? That's what you saying right?



What an F'ing moron.

do you even know how to COMPREHEND? its the thought of climbing MORE DIVISIONS and DOMINATED Hatton and Cotto that made him ATG..thats his 4th lineal and his 6th and 7th divison title. he already fought and won 5 division title prior to Hatton and Cotto. climbing in 6th and 7th dvisions hasnt been done and for Pac to dominate those guys made him an ATG. if you consider top 100 boxers an ATG its fine, but not for me..All TIME GREATS should do great things.

[Las Vegas,]

ALL TIME GREAT? are u that ******? after beating JMM in a close split decision? GTFO! u dont know ***** about boxing. half the people who saw the fight thought he lost or atleast had a draw and became an ATG?

its winning another lineal and 2 more division title made him ATG..u idiot! name calling now huh? give me the list of ATG's that experts been posting and let see Pac there? you have to know how to COMPREHEND dude..nobody thought he could go 140 lbs and up to dominate because he already climbed so many divisions..he did nobody ever thought a guy like Pac can accomplished.

you would probably show me Pac was in the 90's or 100's in rankings..you are a ****in clown dude

You make me laugh. So you're saying his wins over Hatton, Marg, Clottey and Cotto > Barrera, Marquez, and Morales all because they were bigger than him? Is Roy Jones the GOAT since he moved up 30pounds and beat the "great" John Ruiz? Or were his wins over Toney, Hopkins, and McCallum far superior? By your logic you're pretty much using the same analogy.

[joelab75]

So he wasn't an ATG. But, beating Hatton Cotto Clottey and Marg put him top 20 or higher right? That's what you saying right?



What an F'ing moron.

im done with you JRO..yeah Pac was probably ATG in 2008, he was probably ranked around the 90's to 110's..)

[joelab75]

You make me laugh. So you're saying his wins over Hatton, Marg, Clottey and Cotto > Barrera, Marquez, and Morales all because they were bigger than him? Is Roy Jones the GOAT since he moved up 30pounds and beat the "great" John Ruiz? Or were his wins over Toney, Hopkins, and McCallum far superior? By your logic you're pretty much using the same analogy.

yeah just laugh man.

against Barrera he became a world class fighter..and added another division title but to consider ATG that early was not possible. im not trying to compare the wins. its the THOUGHT of climbing in his 6th and his 7th division and dominated his opponents made him ATG. winning 6th and 7th division titles HAVE NEVER BEEN DONE. its like REWRITING THE RECORD BOOK. Barrera beating Barrera wasnt a record breaking, it was AMAZING but no rewriting history. it was Pac's BEST WIN.

and many experts and boxing fans never thought he would disposed Hatton that easy and you can go back in 2008 before he even fought Cotto and see how many of you gave him a chance to beat Cotto in welterweight. probably only Pac fans did.

[jrosales13]

im done

Yes you're. This is probably the smartest thing you said since joining boxingscene.

still laughing at a none ATG being a top 20 ATG just by beating the likes of Hatton, Cotto, Clottey, and Marg.

[Vadrigar.]

Yes you're. This is probably the smartest thing you said since joining boxingscene.

still laughing at a none ATG being a top 20 ATG just by beating the likes of Hatton, Cotto, Clottey, and Marg.

Marg looked past it and Hatton was damaged goods. Was Hatton even that good in the first place?