Better Resume, Marquez or Cotto?

[dibzvincent143]

marquez.easily.. no one in this era beats the pac IV win. i think its the biggest win also that I'll be able to watch in my entire lifetime.

[Spiegelo]

my point on salido was that marquez caught him early when he was losing a lot... salido figured out his craft late in his career

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Lol so that's the point you were making now? Because saying "he lost a lot already" doesn't look too much like "was too young and green". Kind of exact opposites, no?

[S. Saddler 1310]

actually, Cotto may be cut from cloth, but Marquez is cut from rock, comparatively speaking.

and Marquez' resume is more substantial by far.

[thatdudespits]

the gentleman really wants Cotto to be Great.


Cotto is good, but Marquez is cut from very different cloth as a fighter. and his resume is clearly superior.

how is his resume better? i know because he beat Pacquiao thats why.... 1 win against Pacquiao is equivalent to beating Jesus in a chess match...

truth is you present no facts to back your assertion that marquez has a better resume.... you just poll with other people who present no facts... i was very fair, more than fair in my description of each guys notable opponents...

how about you actually give a reason why marquez resume is better.



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[Hiei]

how is his resume better? i know because he beat Pacquiao thats why.... 1 win against Pacquiao is equivalent to beating Jesus in a chess match...

truth is you present no facts to back your assertion that marquez has a better resume.... you just poll with other people who present no facts... i was very fair, more than fair in my description of each guys notable opponents...

how about you actually give a reason why marquez resume is better.



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make a thread with a poll

[S. Saddler 1310]

we all know that wins over undefeated guys are inherently more creditable than wins over guys with losses, that's just a FACT.

dash it all, i should've raided BoxRec for some more FACTS.


keep digging that hole and i'll keep watching - i'm enjoying this.

[thatdudespits]

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Originally Posted by thatdudespits

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Originally Posted by S. Saddler 1310

JMM got most of the votes back in early 2011, before he moved up from LW. those who thought it was close gave JMM an edge, others said it wasn't even close even at that stage. the only guys making a claim for Cotto were, predictably, Puerto Rican or just random diehards with his image plastered all over their displays.

so what do we think now, gentlemen?

Im really going to enjoy this...

Juan Manuel Marquez

54-6-1 39KOs

Record in Title fights- 10-4-1 4KOs

Former Champions Faced -14...

Agapito Sanchez (never beat anyone worth mentioning)
Alfred Kotey (lost 4 of last 6)
Freddie Norwood (Loss for JMM)
Daniel Jimenez (Lost 3 of last 6)
Robbie Peden (lost title in 1st defense)
Manuel Medina (lost 2 of last 6)
Derrick Gainer (beat Norwood)
Manny Pacquiao (Marquez lost 2 controversial dec., 1 draw, 1 win by KO)
Orlando Salido (Good win, but Salido had lost a ton already)
Chris John (loss for JMM)
Marco Antonio Barerra (Great Win)
Joel Casamayor (post Corrales, Castillo...however coming off win streak +5)
Juan Diaz (lost 1 of last 5... good win, competitive fight)
Floyd Mayweather (Loss for JMM, OWNED)

just for kicks...

Michael Katsidis ( lost 2 of last 5)



Miguel Angel Cotto

37-4-0 30KOs

Record in title fights - 17-4-0 14KOs

Champions faced -17...

Austin Trout (Loss for Cotto, Trout undefeated)
Floyd Mayweather (Loss for Cotto)
Antonio Margarito (3 time welterweight champ)
Ricardo Mayorga (lost 3 of last 6)
Yuri Foreman (undefeated)
Manny Pacquiao (Loss for Cotto)
Joshua Clottey (5 straight wins)
Shane Mosley (5 straight wins, last loss to Winky)
Zab Judah (former undisputed WW champ)
Carlos Quintana (undefeated, wins over Joel Julio and Paul Williams)
Paul Malignaggi (undefeated, won straps at 140, 147)
Ricardo Torres (undefeated won strap at 140)
Demarcus Corley (lost 2 of last 6)
Randall Bailey (lost 3 of last 6... multiple time champ)
Lovemore Ndou (won 5 of last 6)
Carlos Maussa (undefeated, beat Vivian Harris for 140lb strap)
Ceasar Bazan (lost 2 of last 6)


you cant argue facts....

Cotto has a better resume

are you done yet?


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just in case you didnt get it the first time....these are facts Cotto's RESUME is better than Marquez


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[Komander]

Outboxing Pacquiao in several fights then finally knocking him out is better than getting Owned by Pacquiao and quitting against Margarito.

[puga]

it is close.. i give the edge to marquez only becuase of the pac ko ...but without it , its about even really...

[New England]

it's marquez, and it's not even close.