Better Resume, Marquez or Cotto?

[thatdudespits]

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Originally Posted by thatdudespits

Im really going to enjoy this...

Juan Manuel Marquez

54-6-1 39KOs

Record in Title fights- 10-4-1 4KOs

Former Champions Faced -14...

Agapito Sanchez (never beat anyone worth mentioning)
Alfred Kotey (lost 4 of last 6)
Freddie Norwood (Loss for JMM)
Daniel Jimenez (Lost 3 of last 6)
Robbie Peden (lost title in 1st defense)
Manuel Medina (lost 2 of last 6)
Derrick Gainer (beat Norwood)
Manny Pacquiao (Marquez lost 2 controversial dec., 1 draw, 1 win by KO)
Orlando Salido (Good win, but Salido had lost a ton already)
Chris John (loss for JMM)
Marco Antonio Barerra (Great Win)
Joel Casamayor (post Corrales, Castillo...however coming off win streak +5)
Juan Diaz (lost 1 of last 5... good win, competitive fight)
Floyd Mayweather (Loss for JMM, OWNED)

just for kicks...

Michael Katsidis ( lost 2 of last 5)



Miguel Angel Cotto

37-4-0 30KOs

Record in title fights - 17-4-0 14KOs

Champions faced -17...

Austin Trout (Loss for Cotto, Trout undefeated)
Floyd Mayweather (Loss for Cotto)
Antonio Margarito (3 time welterweight champ)
Ricardo Mayorga (lost 3 of last 6)
Yuri Foreman (undefeated)
Manny Pacquiao (Loss for Cotto)
Joshua Clottey (5 straight wins)
Shane Mosley (5 straight wins, last loss to Winky)
Zab Judah (former undisputed WW champ)
Carlos Quintana (undefeated, wins over Joel Julio and Paul Williams)
Paul Malignaggi (undefeated, won straps at 140, 147)
Ricardo Torres (undefeated won strap at 140)
Demarcus Corley (lost 2 of last 6)
Randall Bailey (lost 3 of last 6... multiple time champ)
Lovemore Ndou (won 5 of last 6)
Carlos Maussa (undefeated, beat Vivian Harris for 140lb strap)
Ceasar Bazan (lost 2 of last 6)


you cant argue facts....

Cotto has a better resume

are you done yet?


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[S. Saddler 1310]

this guy.

[thatdudespits]

this guy.

dude the question is who has the better resume...

cotto does, and i showed you why

I cant rewrite history to make it fit my needs

facts are facts...

you should concede defeat already.




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[Spiegelo]

dude the question is who has the better resume...

cotto does, and i showed you why

I cant rewrite history to make it fit my needs

facts are facts...

you should concede defeat already.




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Lol "Salido was a good win, but lost a ton already"

Could've also used "Salido was a good win, as he went on to win two world titles, defeating Robert Guerrero and KTFO out of Juanma in the process"

Also could've mentioned that 3 of 4 of Cotto's titles were vacant, one of them being from Michael Jennings..

JMM by far, I think Cotto has done enough to get into the IHOF but to compare him to JMM is ludicrous.

[S. Saddler 1310]

dude the question is who has the better resume...

cotto does, and i showed you why

I cant rewrite history to make it fit my needs

facts are facts...

you didn't show me anything.

statistics are statistics. there's a whole lot more to it than that. have another try at explaining -- not just to me, but the thread -- why Cotto's CV > JMM's.

[Hiei]

this is what happens when the truth upsets people.

"the truth is the truth, the sky is too big for me to cover it" - Angel Garcia



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make a thread about it with a poll i guarantee more people pick JMM

[thatdudespits]

Quote:

Originally Posted by thatdudespits

dude the question is who has the better resume...

cotto does, and i showed you why

I cant rewrite history to make it fit my needs

facts are facts...

you should concede defeat already.




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Lol "Salido was a good win, but lost a ton already"

Could've also used "Salido was a good win, as he went on to win two world titles, defeating Robert Guerrero and KTFO out of Juanma in the process"

Also could've mentioned that 3 of 4 of Cotto's titles were vacant, one of them being from Michael Jennings..

JMM by far, I think Cotto has done enough to get into the IHOF but to compare him to JMM is ludicrous.

comparing resumes.... not fighters... i know people get touchy...

my point on salido was that marquez caught him early when he was losing a lot... salido figured out his craft late in his career

i discussed cottos vacant title wins in previous post... its more important how you defend those belts...
but for kicks :..2 of the 3 vacant titles were won facing undefeated fighters with big upsides...

better than a lot of the guys marquez beat for his titles or his interim titles...





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[Spiegelo]

you didn't show me anything.

statistics are statistics. there's a whole lot more to it than that. have another try at explaining -- not just to me, but the thread -- why Cotto's CV > JMM's.

But boxrec only offers statistics..

[S. Saddler 1310]

the gentleman really wants Cotto to be Great.


Cotto is good, but Marquez is cut from very different cloth as a fighter. and his resume is clearly superior.

[thatdudespits]

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Originally Posted by S. Saddler 1310

JMM got most of the votes back in early 2011, before he moved up from LW. those who thought it was close gave JMM an edge, others said it wasn't even close even at that stage. the only guys making a claim for Cotto were, predictably, Puerto Rican or just random diehards with his image plastered all over their displays.

so what do we think now, gentlemen?

Im really going to enjoy this...

Juan Manuel Marquez

54-6-1 39KOs

Record in Title fights- 10-4-1 4KOs

Former Champions Faced -14...

Agapito Sanchez (never beat anyone worth mentioning)
Alfred Kotey (lost 4 of last 6)
Freddie Norwood (Loss for JMM)
Daniel Jimenez (Lost 3 of last 6)
Robbie Peden (lost title in 1st defense)
Manuel Medina (lost 2 of last 6)
Derrick Gainer (beat Norwood)
Manny Pacquiao (Marquez lost 2 controversial dec., 1 draw, 1 win by KO)
Orlando Salido (Good win, but Salido had lost a ton already)
Chris John (loss for JMM)
Marco Antonio Barerra (Great Win)
Joel Casamayor (post Corrales, Castillo...however coming off win streak +5)
Juan Diaz (lost 1 of last 5... good win, competitive fight)
Floyd Mayweather (Loss for JMM, OWNED)

just for kicks...

Michael Katsidis ( lost 2 of last 5)



Miguel Angel Cotto

37-4-0 30KOs

Record in title fights - 17-4-0 14KOs

Champions faced -17...

Austin Trout (Loss for Cotto, Trout undefeated)
Floyd Mayweather (Loss for Cotto)
Antonio Margarito (3 time welterweight champ)
Ricardo Mayorga (lost 3 of last 6)
Yuri Foreman (undefeated)
Manny Pacquiao (Loss for Cotto)
Joshua Clottey (5 straight wins)
Shane Mosley (5 straight wins, last loss to Winky)
Zab Judah (former undisputed WW champ)
Carlos Quintana (undefeated, wins over Joel Julio and Paul Williams)
Paul Malignaggi (undefeated, won straps at 140, 147)
Ricardo Torres (undefeated won strap at 140)
Demarcus Corley (lost 2 of last 6)
Randall Bailey (lost 3 of last 6... multiple time champ)
Lovemore Ndou (won 5 of last 6)
Carlos Maussa (undefeated, beat Vivian Harris for 140lb strap)
Ceasar Bazan (lost 2 of last 6)


you cant argue facts....

Cotto has a better resume

are you done yet?


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just in case you didnt get it the first time....these are facts Cotto's RESUME is better than Marquez


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