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  • PlayerKiller
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    #51
    Also Wing Chun is very square on, which allows either hand to start. I can see the straight right and Manny being square at times. However he is comfortable in bocing now, and probably has learnt it.

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    • fabie
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      #52
      Originally posted by ChristianBale
      Also Wing Chun is very square on, which allows either hand to start. I can see the straight right and Manny being square at times. However he is comfortable in bocing now, and probably has learnt it.
      Much of what is being taught of what is "traditional" WC is that way but really fighting has no form and so the masters don't really fight like that, it is just that it is taken too literally.

      Thus Bruce Lee's liberation from Wing Chun despite having Wing Chun as his base is priceless.

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      • fabie
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        #53
        Originally posted by fabie
        WAs this you and your friend? hehehhe (kidding)



        That's Emin Boztepe, a Turkish Wing Chun proponent....he is paired with Tacosa of Kali/Escrima (Filipino)
        Originally posted by kingkenny
        yep that was they key to his sucess
        Pretty much...watch this clip!

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        • mrlopez
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          #54
          my boy has been practicing wing tsun

          for years...he told me that if you were goingt o be fighting in a small area(bedroom, elevator, ring etc) that this would be the best martial art to have in your background

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            #55
            Originally posted by The Boxing Snob
            in all honesty, i box, have for years, and just recently took a couple of private wing chun lessons. the instructor was explaining the parallels between boxing and wing chun and now that you mention it i will be looking, trying to find them myself.

            Thanks!
            Take the short cut like Manny did just weight drain your opponents , forget all the chop suey bull**** just handicap your foe works every time .

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              #56
              Ip Man vs Twister (Wing Chun vs Boxing)



              *Just a movie related to thread topic. I'm making no specific point with it.

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              • Seleção No. 13
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                #57
                Originally posted by Seleção No. 13
                You're right about a few things. He does have martial arts connections.

                Bruce Lee's last private student was Ted Wong - who was the instructor of Teri Tom - who is the dietician for Manny and works alongside Alex Ariza. This is her measuring his abs:


                There was a quote from MPBoxing that said they were working with the Bruce Lee site and Shannon Lee (his daughter) does mention Manny quite a few times on her blog.

                But in all honesty, the only martial arts he's probably learned is while filming Wapakman and all those corny Filipino action flicks.
                What an odd coincidence that Teri Tom compared Manny to Bruce Lee in this new article:

                http://www.mb.com.ph/articles/315964...red-bruce-lees

                MANILA, Philippines – Pound for pound champ Manny Pacquiao watched a lot of Bruce Lee movies growing up, which probably explains why their fighting style is quite similar.

                Teri Tom, a female martial arts instructor and member of Bruce Lee Foundation, noticed Pacquiao’s fighting skills to be akin to Bruce Lee when she watched him during his training in the US. She shared her observation about the champion fighter.

                “The way you throw your jabs and punches, sometimes it looks very much like Bruce Lee. Is that conscious? Very few people throw jab that way. When you’re a kid did you watch him?” Tom asked Pacquiao, as featured on “24 Oras,” April 27.

                Pacquiao immediately admitted, “Bruce Lee is my idol. All Bruce Lee’s movies I watched it. You know, the quickness, hands speed, foot work. That’s speed,” said the boxer, who is set to fight with Sugar Shane Mosley next month.

                A first generation student of Ted Wong, who studied martial arts under Bruce Lee, Tom shared her insights about Pacquiao’s fighting skills and a little about Bruce Lee. She noted Pacquiao’s fast jabs, which is called ‘snap.'

                “If you have a jab like that, obviously they’re gonna respect you. But if you don’t have much power behind that jab it’s gonna be a long day.”

                She’s glad to see Pacquiao unwittingly imbibing Jeet Kune Do’s right lead discipline. Jeet Kune Do is a martial arts system and life philosophy founded by world renowned martial artist Bruce Lee.

                “There’s a lot going on, it appears. There are people who studied Bruce Lee [for] many, many decades and they can’t break it down, figure it out and Manny, he’s done it... I would assume without an instructor. Seems like he’s absorbed a lot of what he saw Bruce Lee doing. He put the strong, side and front,” Tom shared.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by ChristianBale
                  I do boxing, and having sparred with a friend who has done Wing Chun, Praying Mantis, boxing and Kung Fu, he kicked my ass in a MMA sparring contest.

                  Now, my friend used his legs, which I don't, and I could not get in range because a leg is long. Secondly, he timed me with his feet, when I got close it would kick and push me back, and when off balance, he would throw about 20 punches Wing Chun style. It was very hard to defend against. The speed is very good, but it does lack power, although accurate because he used his body and arms as a centre line.

                  What I will say is, when I attacked first, he would get a 1 and 2 often, but also he would counter me a lot.

                  He tried teaching me how to block and punch thing, it was very hard to do, so they do have timing in their way with their stance.

                  Yeah wing chun punches dont carry alot of power but they keep you off balance and unable to mount an offensive. And the accumulation of punches eventually takes its toll. Jst like pacquiao went from having monster power to getting stoppages from accumulation.

                  But as far as your sparring problems I may be able to help. Wing chun is generally most effective on the inside and they can only move in straight lines. So instead of trying to get inside ur buddy's kicks, stay on the outside. Use feints to draw the kick. When he does punch his leg. Rinse n repeat until he gets tired of kicking. Then u can jab n move as much as u want before he gets inside.

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                  • Pullcounter
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                    #59
                    Wing Chun is much more effective if you have these:

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by rao007
                      Boxing is definitely an art but it's more so a fighting system that's been proven time and time again...wing chun...please.


                      Anyways, the next time i see a wing chun practitioner win a MMA/Boxing title--i'll stop posting on this site.
                      Fixed.....

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