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  • 10-22-2007, 04:07 AM #46
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    SRL is slightly overrated. Duran was @ his best @ lightweight and they split their 2 meaningful fights. Haglar was pretty much done as being dominant by the time they met. The Mugabi fight was brutal fight and Haglar left a lot in the ring with that win. Benitez trained about as little as any great fighter ever. That leaves the Hearns #1 fight, which was Leonards best victory and a huge accomplishment, but Hearns went on to be Ko'd by Haglar, Barkley etc. Still, I give much credit to Leonard as an all time great even though his timing was perfect to beat these 4 greats.

    How big was the underdog Leonard beating Haglar? As big as underdog Ali beating Liston? As big as Ali beating Foreman? Not even close.

    I agree with you.

    The only one can top SRL Resume is Pac right Now. MAB, EM, & JMM can be compared to Hearns, Hagler & Duran P4P. If this little guys fought at Welterweight you could Place these guys beside those ATGs. With a lot more Great fights on the line for Pac, JMM rematch, Guzman/Soto, Diaz & Katsidis. I believe Pac can top off that resume. That's without my dream fight with Hatton & PBF.

    But what Pac was ahead of SRL is the quality of wins against the best of the best in & around their weight Class. Pac beating MAB is comparable to SRL beating Benitez or Hearns. Pac's trilogy with Morales can be compared to SRL-Duran trilogy only Pac coming as the Smaller Guy & his wins are more impressive. JMM can be compared to Hagler, both the avoided. Pac top SRL again coz Pac was robbed by the judge & Pac's willing to take the rematch. While SRL was Gifted by decision & wait for so long before he fights Hagler. Pac takes JMM just after MAB & he's willing for a rematch but instead take Morales right away. SRL can't top Pac in that department, Taking all of the best in that short time Period.

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    • 10-22-2007, 04:45 AM #48
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      You lie like a rug PacD. Pacquiao was the larger man in 2 of the Morales fights.

      Pacquiao ONLY beat MAB and Morales. Both of which are rated at the tail end of the top 100 fighters ever. Duran and Hagler are top 20, while Hearns is top 50 at least. Pacquiao has never fought a top 20 fighter.

      Do you know WHY SRL waited so long to fight Hagler? He was retired because of a detached retina. Stop comparing Pacquiao where he doesn't belong. MAB and Morales (Morales past his prime) are not comparable to his win...much less better.

      Pac was a former 112 & 122 lbs fighter & moved up to fight MAB & EM at 126-130. Duran was a former 135 fighter move-up to face 147 lbs SRL. You got what I'm saying???

      HOw long did MAB & EM dominated their division Before They were taken out by Pac??? Now Compare that to Hearns & Benitez Reigh before SRL detroned them. Hearns & Duran added more quality wins after their loss to SRL coz SRL retired for a while with his injury. Look at MAB after Pac beat him the 1st time, He got a Good run while he ducks pac for a while. Morales taking Pac Back to Back, Big mistake. Imagine SRL-Hearns Back to back within 2 yrs??. One of them retires early & Permanently for sure.

      I know that SRL has injury but does it take that long to Heal??? Why do you think he did make it back in Boxing after years of retirement??? I think he waits for Hagler to get old & worn out before he makes his mind to fight Hagler. Then He barely win the fight or was Gifted??? Depends on who you ask. Pac don't have that Gifted win in his resume.


      I told you guys!! I debated this long time ago!

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      • Pacdbest, who on Pac's resume is better than Duran?

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        • 10-22-2007, 05:52 AM #53
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          You are an imbecile. Roberto Duran is one of the greatest fighters in history, top 5 for sure. He was the best lightweight in history - the deepest division in history. Pacquiao is nowhere near him. In case you forgot, Duran was not from America, much like Pac. Duran is rated higher because he was MUCH better, and accomplished ALOT more.

          Thomas Hearns was one of the best welterweights ever, as was Benitez, and Hagler was a top 2 middleweight. Morales and Barrera are borderline top 15 featherweights, JMM is a lot lower.. and Pac didn't even beat him!

          Have you even seen these guys on film? They are a class above Pac, EM and Barrera. Remember, Morales is one of my favourite fighters... if anything, I would be supporting him. But I'm sane, and objective, and he is nowhere near the likes of Duran.

          I recognized Duran as the best LIghtweight of all time & Hearns & SRL are just riding on that.

          Hearns is not the best at welter. He was KOd by SRL remember??? KOed by Hagler, Koed by Barkley. Nobody Koed Pac yet in the elite competiton.

          I watched them all live on TV & watched them again nowadays in youtube & Tape all their fights courtesy of HBO & Versus. They're all impressive & so as Pacquiao of today.

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          • 10-22-2007, 07:08 AM #56
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            Wrong, only one of those fights was at welter. If Hearns had chose to stay at light middleweight he would have dominated for yrs. The Hagler fight at middle took a lot out of Hearns but he still became a multi weight champ.
            PS Hearns came in too light against Leonard by overtraining and was winning the fight by miles until tiring. If the fight was a 12 rd Hearns would have won. Everyone knows he beat Leonard in the rematch (at super middle?)

            I believe Hearns wins the 2nd fight also & SRL partly agreed with it. That makes SRL a slightly overrated. Pac, MAB, EM & even JMM are all Multi-weight Champs also. BUt those 3 Mexicans all tasted Canvas against Pac, Pac was never been down on all his fight with those 3 top fighters. Hearns was down with SRL & Hagler. SRL KD by Hearns, Duran KOd by Hearns & Hagler. Nobody KD & KO Hagler. Pac KD everybody & will KO JMM Next. For me Pac is Greater coz he Dominated every Great fighter he's fought(I already include Pac's Future KO of JMM).
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            • Originally posted by [KLTP] View Post
              Pacdbest, who on Pac's resume is better than Duran?
              Probably none. But Pac's Greater than Duran!

              So are u enjoying reading my 4 year old posts?

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              • Originally posted by [KLTP] View Post
                Pacdbest, who on Pac's resume is better than Duran?
                who on SRL's resume is greater than robinson?....does that mean lamotta is greater than srl?....

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                • Originally posted by puga View Post
                  who on SRL's resume is greater than robinson?....does that mean lamotta is greater than srl?....
                  I guess this thread is over!! They ran out of ammo!!

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                  • this is the dumbest "fake battle" of all time.


                    these comparisons are laughable.

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                    • Originally posted by Pacdbest View Post
                      I guess this thread is over!! They ran out of ammo!!
                      lol...they did.....watch these mofos resort to namecalling and ****....

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