Greatest fighter of all time. Sugar Ray Robinson or Manny Pacquiao?

[Ishy Aytan]

This thread is more of an evaluation of the state of NSB


if you think that manny deserves to be considered the best fighter to ever box you are flat out wrong

LOOOL, the sole reason why i posted this thread was to show everyone how pathetic things have come round here.

[Monkz]

What a sad state NSB is in.

[[ DUBBZZ ]]

ThreAd is about PAC but yet f@ggets talking about Floyd.

Thread asked who the Greatest fighter was. Thought I'd school these *******s who the REAL GOAT is. Don't worry homey, I got Floyd's back on this!

[Ishy Aytan]

What a sad state NSB is in.

Tell me about it..............

[Stanly Ketchel]

LOOOL, the sole reason why i posted this thread was to show everyone how pathetic things have come round here.

When outlandish and ****** statements are made the intelligent are compelled to reply at times. You can fish for a man and and he'll eat for a day, teach him how to fish and he'll eat for a lifetime. Slow day for you eh brother?

[Ishy Aytan]

When outlandish and ****** statements are made the intelligent are compelled to reply at times. You can fish for a man and and he'll eat for a day, teach him how to fish and he'll eat for a lifetime. Slow day for you eh brother?

There was a thread yesterday about Mannys ATG status, and more than 80 percent of Pacquiao die hard fans believed he was the best ever.

[edgarg]

I don't believe in all time because I wasn't around SRR time. All I know is that PAC is the greatest during my time.

I saw all Robinson's great fights, in fact all his fights that were on film, and at the time they occurred. I even saw his losing fight against Tiger Jones, when they said Robinson was finished.

That is, when he went up to middleweight. never saw him as a welter. And the REAL brilliance of the guy showed more here than at welter, since he was already on the slide when he went up to middleweight.

So with all the wonderful fights he produced as a middleweight, I still never saw him at his best.

[edgarg]

You're wrong. Floyd is the best. Like Floyd said, SRR, Ali, SRL, Pac: they all got losses, Floyd don't. How you gonna be the best if you losin fights? Floyd is the GOAT, period.

At one time Robinson was 132-1 and that loss was when he was a kid, against Jake La Motta later middleweight Champ. he was still a middleweight and Robinson a fairly light welterweight in that fight. They fought about 5 times more and Robinson won every one.

Robinson really only began losing an occasional fight when he became a mifddleweight, and a bit lazy. He lost the Randolph Turpin fight because he wasn't properly fit. It was at the end of a tour of Europe where he fought all the local champions, who were not nearly near Robinson's class, and ended in London with the Turpin fight, where Turpin surprised him. As the papers said at the time, Robinson's stately tour through Europe, living the life of a Champion did not fit him for a tough fight with Turpin, and he paid the penalty.

Of course, by that time, he was already past his best, but still had his terrific ego which alone, without 2 fists, was nearly enough to beat an opponenet.

[KILLA RIGHT]

a draw and most people had him losing to jmm the second time
2 wins over a washed up erik
catchweight vs cotto and tony
2 good wins vs mab
beat clottey after cotto just beat him
How in the *** can you idiots vote for him over srr. I bet its the pac fans that been watching boxing since pac became famous...
people say if pac beats sergio at 160 hes the goat. Well henry armstrong did that type of ****. Which is why i hate when people compare pac to henry. Henry beat fighters with no catchweight while being hugely out weight

[edgarg]

yeah, i watched that fight. several times actually.

but most of his fights in his prime, there were no footage. only accounts from people who saw it themselves.

So, watching his middleweight fights, when he was past his prime, can give you SOME idea as to what he was like in his prime, and match up with the accounts of those who did see hem then...........No??