Comments Thread For: Insider Notebook: De La Hoya, Arum on Pacquiao vs Ortiz

[Old//Bones]

it won't be easy, but abner mares should get past abeko.

[indystress]

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Originally Posted by straightleft View Post
Torrecampo, Singsurat, Morales and Marquez beat Pacquiao without OST. I repeat without OST! but Floyd desperately needed those OST to beat Pac and forced smaller men like Hatton and Marquez to move up in his division 147 just to have all those advantages and leave no stones unturned. LOL!


if you look up punch landed by both guys for pac/marquez I and II, it was very close...and the big difference were the KDs in both fights, 3 in one and 1 in the other...so i dont see how marquez won any of those fights.

pacs win in both marquez fight arent as controversial as mayweather/castillo #1...where castillo outlanded mayweather by a margin of about 2 to 1....that my friend is more bogus than any of pacs win over marquez

[indystress]

this thread stinks with jealousy from idiot mayweather fans who keep on bringing baseless steroid accusations. the reason pacquiao is fighting the "old" fighters is because they are the top guys in the division, it's that simple. if ortiz had better credentials than cotto and margarito prior to his win against berto, don't you think pac would have picked him instead? one win doesn't make you the toughest. pacquiao became a champion in 8 weight divisions and you idiots still don't give him credit. i call that envy. go ahead losers, continue being jealous losers

yah true, if u look at all the division, the majority of the top boxers are in their early, mid and even later 30's...so this thing about being old (mainly from *****sapians) is all BS...and young gun ortiz just beat up on another young gun in berto...

from what i saw from both young guns ortiz and berto, they both dont have any type of jab at all...moreso for ortiz. you think a young gun without a jab can beat a early 30 something champ (pacquiao) that has been in wars, and just the past few years has been dominating every opponant with ease? GTFO my *****sapian brothas

[edgarg]

ODLH speaks Spanish and he had cornermen who spoke Spanish during fights so why did Mexico "Mexicans" turn their back on him? Every Mexican I knew hated ODLH. Explain that one buddy boy!!!

You know, I searched all the previous posts twice to see if i could respond the this creeper Budfr. I couldn't find him/her/it. Does that mean that his post was erased by the administrators? It deserves to be. If I knew how to get in touch with them I have a few things to say about their reluctance to bring back some decency into what is allowed by their posters.

In many countries, a guy like that, a **** supporter, would be in jail. That is, in countries who still have some conscience.

[edgarg]

Arum said the same thing bout Donaire that Filipino's & Fili-Americans loved him and he was the next Manny, but now that Donaire is signed with Golden Boy, Arum has stated that Donaire is not a high quality fighter and that the Filipino's in general don't follow Donaire. Racist ****, Get over it De La Hoya's the highest paid boxer & now he's taking over your spot in the Promoting business old man time for your ass to retire.

I regret-believe me- to disagree with your very own 7th post on this site. Donaire is NOT signed with Golden Balls, he is signed with Top Rank, who brought him, to the top. His contract does not run out until June 25th. 2011. Then it is extended by 2 6 nmonth periods when he was medically refused permission to fight, which brings us to June 25th 2012.

And LAST, but NOT LEAST, the contract contains a 1 year extension of contract option for Top Rank, which Arum announced at the very beginning of this situation, that Top Rank would exercise. This brings us to June 25th 2013, when Donaire's contract will expire.

Since you are probably still in school, (meaning no offence) don't you think that you should brush up a little on both your reading and your Arithmetic??

[edgarg]

These Island Frogs are still mad that Salido KO JuanMa their last hero, now they're envious of Victor Ortiz, Bob Arum is a selfish and jealous ***, Mexicans and Mexican-Americans have always backed up Ortiz, & Arum is more ******ed for saying Ortiz doesn't speak Spanish when in fact in BorciuaBoxing he gave a speech in great fluent Spanish. Also his trainer Danny Garcia talks to him in Spanish. Don't be jealous of Mexicans success.

I always thought that Arum was an American, jealous or not. I suppose you think you're clever having discovered that "jealous" and "***" make a snappy combination.

How would you like it if I referred to you as a "Mashuggena ******" or a "Crappy Christian", etc. And I can think of other, mure suitable descriptive adjectives if required.

You are a rascally racist.

[LeadUppercut]

NOBODY has beaten Pacquiao SINCE he became a 2 handed fighter, I expect no one will, especially any of the so called lions like Bradley, Alexander, Rios, etc etc etc. And as far as Mayweather is concerned, I hear he is going to start boxing in a women's boxing division or Gay Powderpuff welterweights! I would be happy not to see that coward's name in print ever again.

It's the other way around dude.

" Pacquiao has beaten NOBODY SINCE he became a 2 handed fighter "

He is a carefully managed product, a Top Rank creation who is feeding on old men, stiffs, and faded champions.

Mosley, will be Pacquiao's 8th consecutive opponent who was at a serious disadvantage. Marquez at 147 will be the 9th consecutive opponent.

That's why I got no respect for Pacquiao. He is a terrific fighter, but he is only perceived as "great" because he holds all of the advantages.

He is a Top Rank hype-job.

A good fighter will look great, if he holds all of the advantages.

[ShoulderRoll]

Arum said he was American born, didn't speak Spanish, and although with a Mexican last name did not relate to the Mexicans (the way a Mexican born would).

So you're admitting that Arum is a liar? Because Ortiz does speak Spanish.

[lillu89]

This old fool makes laugh..........he said ortiz is a mexican last name when in reality it originated in spain. And of course victor is mexican-american born and raise in the states. And he speaks perfect spanish. just watch his post press conference after the fight with berta. Arum is so old and ******. Do your research before you speak so u don't look like an idiot

[TaurusJ27]

I think the promoters will find a easy title defense for ortiz to give him more exposure before setting up a fight with pacquiao.