I'd give Ortiz a better shot at beating Mayweather than Manny...............

[1believer]

Yea we know he had a big win and everybody is optimistic about his future, but lets not be too hasty here. If you line up two screens with a Manny fighting and Ortiz fighting it would be clear that Ortiz isn't on his level. The only person who has a chance beating Floyd at Welterweight is Manny.

[Doctor_Tenma]

I think Mayweather stops him, Ortiz is reckless, kind of reminds me of an earlier Timothy Bradley in that sense.

[Dynamite Kid]

i can already see people saying manny can fight with either hand. im not sure on the idea of ortiz fights to the level of his opponent because after he KD'ed peterson, he was simply getting schooled (from what i remembered, i only watched it once, live). and manny has a pretty good guard, he's not open like most fighters, plus his quickness is just too good. i don't think he would have too much of a problem landing a shot on mayweather, landing flurries or power shots yeah, but he can deff get some shots in. it's hard to say how pacquiao/mayweather would play out, i think that's why it's such a big fight. but ortiz is just not experienced enough to handle mayweather, i just see him not being able to do much and floyd coasting to a MD/UD.

Fair enough, but as I say, he wont be the first fighter to of struggled with lesser opposition, which I think the examples I brought up prove to a degree.


Manny is wide open up the middle what the way he holds his hands high glued to the side of his head, he barely every parries or blocks punches either. Manny had a perforated ear drum against Cotto, and did you see his how marked up he was against Margo?

Manny has been looking spectacular when the target has been moving toward him, but when ever he's been in there when the target is moving away from him, and he's fighting a world class fighter, he's had major problems. I dont think people realize, Manny on the backfoot, is a completely different entity to Manny on the front foot.


Difference between Ortiz and Manny, is that Ortiz can create his openings, as he has a jab, he wouldn't give up his southpaw advantage so easy cause he can work off his fundamentals. Manny has to come trying to kick the door down instead of trying to pick the lock, and that is a major problem when you have a leaky defense, no jab, and the guy your fighting happens to be longer than you, and the best counter puncher in the game.

[DUCK FACE]

Ortiz does not have a good jab or if he does he barely uses it..

[Dynamite Kid]

Ortiz does not have a good jab or if he does he barely uses it..

He could be more consistent with it, agree.

[bojangles1987]

I'll just say that I strongly disagree, very strongly.

[neoz]

LOL made me Laugh at least.
Get your eyes checked

[Walt Liquor]

Lulz,

One win vs a suprememely flawed berto with no legs........

Wow.

[Walt Liquor]

Fair enough, but as I say, he wont be the first fighter to of struggled with lesser opposition, which I think the examples I brought up prove to a degree.


Manny is wide open up the middle what the way he holds his hands high glued to the side of his head, he barely every parries or blocks punches either. Manny had a perforated ear drum against Cotto, and did you see his how marked up he was against Margo?

Manny has been looking spectacular when the target has been moving toward him, but when ever he's been in there when the target is moving away from him, and he's fighting a world class fighter, he's had major problems. I dont think people realize, Manny on the backfoot, is a completely different entity to Manny on the front foot.
Difference between Ortiz and Manny, is that Ortiz can create his openings, as
he has a jab, he wouldn't give up his southpaw advantage so easy cause he can work off his fundamentals. Manny has to come trying to kick the door down instead of trying to pick the lock, and that is a major problem when you
have a leaky defense, no jab, and the guy your fighting happens to be longer than you, and the best counter puncher in the game.

Ortiz has a jab? It was either the Campbell fight or the petesoj fight where he threw 8 freakin jabs the whole fight.

He does not create openings witH his jab.

WTF is wrong with you?

Lulz, manny can't create openeings lulz. Ok so he lands 400 punches a fight, because he feints. The #1 pfp fighter and offensive juggernaut can't create openings except for using feints.

[-The Glove-]

Lol. Dumbass...LOL!