Told ya Berto was a hype job..

[Rome-By-Ko]

Firstly am glad Berto lost, I dont like his annoying asss, Secondly this thread is about him demanding 50-50 with Mosley and nothing to do with how underrated, overrated or how he was a hype-job, Its all because he demand 50-50 with Mosley after Mosley embarrassing lost to Mayweather...And i agreed with Berto 100% with him demanding 50-50 with Mosley.

It's all about him not fighting anybody I've been talking smack about Berto since the Collazo fight..Him disrespecting Shane and guy's like ya self not wanting to give Mosley his just due and wanting Berto(LMAO)to fight Pac that's a different subject..One I already have a thread own..Berto asking for 50/50 was a clear duck it did not matter because he was exposed none the less..

[Ray*]

Damn right a Mosley fan,Berto talk wild sh#t to a legend and a fighter who gave his life to his career..Berto ask for 50/50 against Mosley while he had proved nothing..Oh and people like you said he should have got 50/50??Because what who had he beat??Who did he beat to get a shot at Pac??You was one of umm who said he deserved a shot at Pac did'int you??You talk down Mosley right now,Berto proved nothing and was hyped like he was some kinda big shot..That Is The Definition Of A Hype Job..Is it not??

Lol, Find me one post where i said he deserve a Pac fight over Mosley, Just one post and i would give you 400M points, Secondly he deserve 50-50 with Mosley because of market value, Mosley had no market value, Berto made ****** money KO bums on HBO and you want him to fight Mosley for less?

The difference between me and you is i can see from both side because i dont like Berto and i dont care for Mosley neither, But you're a Mosley fan so obviously you would act like a girl whenever it involves Mosley so i do understand.

[Rome-By-Ko]

He did get exposed a bit, but man, you've got to give credit to Ortiz for bringing it like he did

I was rooting for Ortiz big time, but when Berto dropped him hard i thought it was over. Ortiz inspired me with the way he came back though.

Once again this is not a knock on Ortiz he fought great..Bertois also highly talented,but he was believing in his own hype..Classic hype job move..But much credit to Ortiz..

[Ray*]

It's all about him not fighting anybody I've been talking smack about Berto since the Collazo fight..Him disrespecting Shane and guy's like ya self not wanting to give Mosley his just due and wanting Berto(LMAO)to fight Pac that's a different subject..One I already have a thread own..Berto asking for 50/50 was a clear duck it did not matter because he was exposed none the less..

Again find me a post where i think Berto should fight Pac first over Mosley, I didnt think the fight was a bad idea to be honest but i think Pac destroyed Berto and am sure while you were searching for that 400M post you would come across at least 3-4 post of mine which i pointed out how Pac would destroy Berto.

I dont give Mosley is due how? Because i said he deserve to share 50-50 with Berto? Berto makes more money fighting bums on HBO than Mosley makes fighting the same bum.. This isnt disrespectful to shane its called Market-Value.

[Rome-By-Ko]

Lol, Find me one post where i said he deserve a Pac fight over Mosley, Just one post and i would give you 400M points, Secondly he deserve 50-50 with Mosley because of market value, Mosley had no market value, Berto made ****** money KO bums on HBO and you want him to fight Mosley for less?

The difference between me and you is i can see from both side because i dont like Berto and i dont care for Mosley neither, But you're a Mosley fan so obviously you would act like a girl whenever it involves Mosley so i do understand.

Berto would have made more money fighting in a fight with Mosley at 60-40(not to mention name recognition)then he got in his azz kicking last night..

I love Mosley but I'm always honest show me the post were I was bias even when it came to Mosley...

[size15shoe]

Why do people think I'm saying this because Berto lost??This is about who he has fought and what he demanded before his lost..Then to lose to a fighter not even rank at WW??It shows Berto for what he is a hype job..Not because he lost but he fought no high level opposition since the Collazo fight(how many yrs has that been??)so if ya wanna rewrite a better post responding to what this thread is really about I'll be happy to hear it..

Then to lose to a fighter not even rank at WW??It shows Berto for what he is a hype job..

This is why my post made sense, and honestly its the crust of your argument. Im not arguing your point, im just arguing the logic behind it. The fact that Berto lost to an "unranked fighter at 147lbs" is irrelevant. Ortiz is still a good fighter, top 10 in his former 140lb division (who has flaws, himself) who moved up in weight and got the best of Berto.

Sugar Shane moved up in weight to fight De La Hoya and he won. Im not comparing Ortiz to Mosely in talent, but in essense, he did the same thing; he moved up, fought a good opponent and won. Would you consider Oscar De La Hoya being a hype job because an unranked 140lb fighter moved up in weight and beat him?

[Rome-By-Ko]

Again find me a post where i think Berto should fight Pac first over Mosley, I didnt think the fight was a bad idea to be honest but i think Pac destroyed Berto and am sure while you were searching for that 400M post you would come across at least 3-4 post of mine which i pointed out how Pac would destroy Berto.

I dont give Mosley is due how? Because i said he deserve to share 50-50 with Berto? Berto makes more money fighting bums on HBO than Mosley makes fighting the same bum.. This isnt disrespectful to shane its called Market-Value.

It's called the contract Berto signed(he can thank Al for that)and HBO dumbazz for writing it up..Berto is not a draw,maybe that will change now..

[ts33]

Once again this is not a knock on Ortiz he fought great..Bertois also highly talented,but he was believing in his own hype..Classic hype job move..But much credit to Ortiz..

Agreed 100%

The easy fights came back to haunt Berto. Before the fight you could just see it in his eyes that he thought that he was superior to Ortiz.

[Canelo Phresh]

Did I not tell so many of you Berto was a hype Job??What will be the things Bertos fans say to why he lost I can't wait..Now just think if he fought Mosley..

what berto fans?

[Rome-By-Ko]

Then to lose to a fighter not even rank at WW??It shows Berto for what he is a hype job..

This is why my post made sense, and honestly its the crust of your argument. Im not arguing your point, im just arguing the logic behind it. The fact that Berto lost to an "unranked fighter at 147lbs" is irrelevant. Ortiz is still a good fighter, top 10 in his former 140lb division (who has flaws, himself) who moved up in weight and got the best of Berto.

Sugar Shane moved up in weight to fight De La Hoya and he won. Im not comparing Ortiz to Mosely in talent, but in essense, he did the same thing; he moved up, fought a good opponent and won. Would you consider Oscar De La Hoya being a hype job because an unranked 140lb fighter moved up in weight and beat him?

Ask ya self that same question,would you consider Hoya at the time Mosley fought him a hype job??That's a dumb question(no offense)Look at their resumes and then get back to me..