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Originally posted by don miguel View PostAre you a conditioning coach?
Or one of the *****s who graduated from google university?
Fight night weight has everything to do with power. Every high school science student knows that a man's power is directly proportional to its weight. That's why most trainers resorted to making their fighters fight lower than their natural weight because by fight night as they regained their natural weight they would have an advantage than boxers who are weighing-in at their natural weight.
You have it the other way around. Most boxers have to shed-off mostly water from their body and muscles to make the official weight. That's detrimental to the body because everyone knows our body needs water.
That's the reason why Roach would not allow Pacquiao to fight at 135 even though he can make it because Manny have to shed weight.
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The "honest" Congroidsman will never leave Top Rank until they've milked their cash coward dry.
Manroid enjoys having all the advantages of his padded "legacy".
And Manroid knows his promoter knows all of the advantages of his PED's.
Manny will take the "wins", the fame, the cash, and the "legacy", while being a puppet who knows his promoter has tons of dirt on his fraudulent career. Like it or not kids.
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Originally posted by LMFAO View PostThe "honest" Congroidsman will never leave Top Rank until they've milked their cash coward dry.
Manroid enjoys having all the advantages of his padded "legacy".
And Manroid knows his promoter knows all of the advantages of his PED's.
Manny will take the "wins", the fame, the cash, and the "legacy", while being a puppet who knows his promoter has tons of dirt on his fraudulent career. Like it or not kids.
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Originally posted by ShoguNinja View PostAnother ****-****** *****s who can't understand that Gayweather has "No Legacy" to protect and his only claim to fame is an "over-rated and undefeated record" againts fighter's who are smaller and slower than him except for Oscar who almost beat him?! Tell your IDOL to $uck it up and Man up and fight Pacquiao with "No Bull****" attached?!
Floyd's in their deepest fantasies !!
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Originally posted by don miguel View PostOw! I rate Martinez very high. But again, you ignored that he is a Middleweight. Martinez himself said after KO Williams that Pacquiao is too small.
You want Pac to fight JMM at 135.
Yet you want him to fight Martinez, a middleweight.
Common...
This thread is about Marquez and Pacquiao.
You are being ****** for two reasons.....
* I do not want to see Manny squashed by Martinez, Sergio would kill Pac
* I have clearly stated that Manny should not be expected to make 135.
Manny is a natural JWW and can easily make 140 according to Roach/Ariza.Last edited by LeadUppercut; 04-17-2011, 02:48 PM.
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Originally posted by don miguel View PostJMM-Pac 3 if ever will happen at 147. So be it. It means JMM agreed to it.
So did everybody that Pac fought at a catch weight.
Nobody pointed a gun on their head to sign the contract.
Pac is a hype-job or not is not being a fact or not. Its an opinion.
Pac haters would call him a hype-job.
*******s will call him GOAT.
But its a FACT that BWAA voted Pac as the fighter of the dacade.
Its a FACT that according to the opinion of most boxing historians and writers, Pac is an ATG.
I would choose their opinion over yours all the time.
Every boxer would negotiate for an advantage.
But many boxers would give up advantage to fight Pac for money.
Why would you blame Pac if they will do that?
Pac is the PPV draw now.
Nobody gave it to him. He fought from 105 to 150 to earn it.
If that's easy to do and a hype-job, then why everybody is not doing it.
If Pac's opponent at WW were old faded fighters, why does JMM not fighting Cotto, Marg and Clottey?
If JMM won over Floyd, he could be the PPV king right now.
Everybody would concede to his every demand.
But right now, Pac is.
So live with it.
That's the way it is in boxing.
If you could change it, I'll be happy to help.
If you can't and can't accept it.
Get out of here..
Your boy is an over-rated hype-job, deal with it ^^
Manny Pacquiao's last 7 opponents.....
Lately, a number of observers have commented that all of Manny Pacquiao's recent opponents have either been old, faded, or inept. Let's take a closer look at 27%'s recent fights, and see if there is any truth to that allegation.....
Accusations leveled at Pacquiao include.....
* Manny will not fight a skilled boxer
* Manny will not fight a skilled counter-puncher
* Manny will not fight anybody who is in their prime
* Manny will not fight anybody who is on top of their game
* Manny will not fight anybody who is coming off a win
* Manny will not fight anybody without a distinct advantage
Let's apply that criteria to 27%'s last 7 opponents, and see how they stack up.
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David Diaz - Not a top fighter, faded, disadvantaged.....
* Manny will not fight a skilled boxer
* Manny will not fight a skilled counter-puncher
* Manny will not fight anybody who is in their prime
* Manny will not fight anybody who is on top of their game
* Manny will not fight anybody without a distinct advantage
Oscar De La Hoya - Shot, drained, and shrink-wrapped.....
* Manny will not fight anybody who is in their prime
* Manny will not fight anybody who is on top of their game
* Manny will not fight anybody who is coming off a win
* Manny will not fight anybody without a distinct advantage
Ricky Hatton - Not a top fighter, faded, and disadvantaged.....
* Manny will not fight a skilled boxer
* Manny will not fight a skilled counter-puncher
* Manny will not fight anybody who is in their prime
* Manny will not fight anybody who is on top of their game
* Manny will not fight anybody who is coming off a win
* Manny will not fight anybody without a distinct advantage
Miguel Angel Cotto - Badly faded / shopworn, and disadvantaged.....
* Manny will not fight anybody who is in their prime
* Manny will not fight anybody who is on top of their game
* Manny will not fight anybody who is coming off a win
* Manny will not fight anybody without a distinct advantage
Joshua Clottey - Not a top fighter, and strangely innocuous.....
* Manny will not fight a skilled boxer
* Manny will not fight a skilled counter-puncher
* Manny will not fight anybody who is on top of their game
* Manny will not fight anybody who is coming off a win
* Manny will not fight anybody without a distinct advantage
Antonio Margarito - Not a top fighter, faded, disadvantaged.....
* Manny will not fight a skilled boxer
* Manny will not fight a skilled counter-puncher
* Manny will not fight anybody who is in their prime
* Manny will not fight anybody who is on top of their game
* Manny will not fight anybody who is coming off a win
* Manny will not fight anybody without a distinct advantage
Shane Mosley - Faded, shopworn, and disadvantaged.....
* Manny will not fight anybody who is in their prime
* Manny will not fight anybody who is on top of their game
* Manny will not fight anybody who is coming off a win
* Manny will not fight anybody without a distinct advantage
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All-in-all, that is a damn shabby line-up for a supposed P4P fighter, especially when you consider all of the advantages afforded to 27% during those fights..... e.g. fighting for a vacant JMW title, at catch-weight, against a BUM, and using 8oz gloves
Now, I can understand a top fighter taking the odd bout against a lesser opponent.....
but EVERY opponent in your last 7 fights?
How fkn lame is that ?
The last time 27% fought a live dog was Marquez II, and according to a significant number of trainers/fighters/journalists/analysts..... HE LOST!!
SUMMARY: There is no question that 27% is a manufactured fighter, with a padded resume'..... quite simply, just more Top Rank smoke and mirrors.
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Originally posted by DominiBox View PostI don't know from what hole you came here ******, but it's so strange to hear words like FAIRER, BETTER FOR BOXING, BETTER FOR THE FANS and LEGACY from a Floyd's a$$ l!cker like you !!
FACT !! Go and see some tapes and when you learn something you come back to me cr@ckhead !!
Moron, give yourself an uppercut, Manny is very good at making up excuses by himself, he don't need some idiot kid helping him
Your boy is a manufactured hype-job, deal with it
Manny Pacquiao's last 7 opponents.....
Lately, a number of observers have commented that all of Manny Pacquiao's recent opponents have either been old, faded, or inept. Let's take a closer look at 27%'s recent fights, and see if there is any truth to that allegation.....
Accusations leveled at Pacquiao include.....
* Manny will not fight a skilled boxer
* Manny will not fight a skilled counter-puncher
* Manny will not fight anybody who is in their prime
* Manny will not fight anybody who is on top of their game
* Manny will not fight anybody who is coming off a win
* Manny will not fight anybody without a distinct advantage
Let's apply that criteria to 27%'s last 7 opponents, and see how they stack up.
====================================
David Diaz - Not a top fighter, faded, disadvantaged.....
* Manny will not fight a skilled boxer
* Manny will not fight a skilled counter-puncher
* Manny will not fight anybody who is in their prime
* Manny will not fight anybody who is on top of their game
* Manny will not fight anybody without a distinct advantage
Oscar De La Hoya - Shot, drained, and shrink-wrapped.....
* Manny will not fight anybody who is in their prime
* Manny will not fight anybody who is on top of their game
* Manny will not fight anybody who is coming off a win
* Manny will not fight anybody without a distinct advantage
Ricky Hatton - Not a top fighter, faded, and disadvantaged.....
* Manny will not fight a skilled boxer
* Manny will not fight a skilled counter-puncher
* Manny will not fight anybody who is in their prime
* Manny will not fight anybody who is on top of their game
* Manny will not fight anybody who is coming off a win
* Manny will not fight anybody without a distinct advantage
Miguel Angel Cotto - Badly faded / shopworn, and disadvantaged.....
* Manny will not fight anybody who is in their prime
* Manny will not fight anybody who is on top of their game
* Manny will not fight anybody who is coming off a win
* Manny will not fight anybody without a distinct advantage
Joshua Clottey - Not a top fighter, and strangely innocuous.....
* Manny will not fight a skilled boxer
* Manny will not fight a skilled counter-puncher
* Manny will not fight anybody who is on top of their game
* Manny will not fight anybody who is coming off a win
* Manny will not fight anybody without a distinct advantage
Antonio Margarito - Not a top fighter, faded, disadvantaged.....
* Manny will not fight a skilled boxer
* Manny will not fight a skilled counter-puncher
* Manny will not fight anybody who is in their prime
* Manny will not fight anybody who is on top of their game
* Manny will not fight anybody who is coming off a win
* Manny will not fight anybody without a distinct advantage
Shane Mosley - Faded, shopworn, and disadvantaged.....
* Manny will not fight anybody who is in their prime
* Manny will not fight anybody who is on top of their game
* Manny will not fight anybody who is coming off a win
* Manny will not fight anybody without a distinct advantage
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All-in-all, that is a damn shabby line-up for a supposed P4P fighter, especially when you consider all of the advantages afforded to 27% during those fights..... e.g. fighting for a vacant JMW title, at catch-weight, against a BUM, and using 8oz gloves
Now, I can understand a top fighter taking the odd bout against a lesser opponent.....
but EVERY opponent in your last 7 fights?
How fkn lame is that ?
The last time 27% fought a live dog was Marquez II, and according to a significant number of trainers/fighters/journalists/analysts..... HE LOST!!
SUMMARY: There is no question that 27% is a manufactured fighter, with a padded resume'..... quite simply, just more Top Rank smoke and mirrors.
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