Shaver's Punching Power Is Completely Overrated.

[Battle*Hardened]

How can people dismiss Vitali's KO power but in the same token bring up Shavers as the mold of a puncher.

That is just ******ation.

Ummm, maybe because Vitali has never fought a top 100 HW of all time besides Lewis who stopped him?? Shavers has fought multiple.

[Rassclot]

Ummm, maybe because Vitali has never fought a top 100 HW of all time besides Lewis who stopped him?? Shavers has fought multiple.

and lost every single one of those fights. what's your point?


Vitali(2 time heavyweight champ) > Shavers (never held the heavyweight strap)

[Rassclot]

Shavers faced a much higher level of competition. If he was fighting now he'd be a long reigning champion.

LMAO

he would get KOed by Chris Arreola or Sam Peter. 210 lb soaking wet Ernie Shavers is so overrated it's not even funny.

[RINGG]

LMAO

he would get KOed by Chris Arreola or Sam Peter. 210 lb soaking wet Ernie Shavers is so overrated it's not even funny.

LOL Arreola and Peters!! What a joke. They wouldn't even be trial horses 20-30 years ago. Todays heavyweight division is a joke and it's not the multi-titlists fault they don't have meaningful opponents it's just a lull in history like when Floyd Patterson dominated the division.

[Rassclot]

LOL Arreola and Peters!! What a joke. They wouldn't even be trial horses 20-30 years ago. Todays heavyweight division is a joke and it's not the multi-titlists fault they don't have meaningful opponents it's just a lull in history like when Floyd Patterson dominated the division.

20-30 years ago the heavyweights are the cruiserweights of today.

A 250 lb Sam Peter in his prime would've taken Shaver's best shot and put him out cold like Jeremy Williams.


Especially considering Shavers is a crude puncher with a weak chin. Wake up.

[Steven Adams]

thats why briggs was KTFO by Lewis.. right

[hweightblogger]

LOL Arreola and Peters!! What a joke. They wouldn't even be trial horses 20-30 years ago. Todays heavyweight division is a joke and it's not the multi-titlists fault they don't have meaningful opponents it's just a lull in history like when Floyd Patterson dominated the division.

Sam Peter would have ruled the 1970s. Chris Arreola would have ruled, too.

Approximately half of Klitschkos opponents would have ruled the 1970s. Let alone the Klitschkos themselves.

I watched too many footage of these "golden age men" (or rather "boys") to be impressed. They suck. There is nothing special about them (except Foreman).

And as I said before: People call it golden because it was such a p*ss.

[hweightblogger]

20-30 years ago the heavyweights are the cruiserweights of today.

Even worse. Nowadays cruisers weigh 200-215 at fight night.
What-was-then-called heavyweights weighed 175-215 at fight night.

Thus the 1970s heavyweight division is actually a cruiserweight division (or as I call it CakaH-weight = Cruiserweight Also Known As Heavyweight) while nowadays' cruiser division is what was called heavyweight division.

It's a complete switch of terms.

Ali's era (Ali+opps+opps' opps) consists of 1381 boxers.
Their average weight in the 2642 fights that they fought against each other was... hold your hat... 199 lbs. That wouldn't even be considered a genuine cruiser today.

Something like our heavyweight division didn't exist back then.

All their stats ("wins", "KOratio", ...) are near worthless compared to Klitschkos' heavyweight stats.

Ali's MEDIAN KOwin (within 12) is 197 lbs.
WOOOOW! That would put modern heavies in a state of shock I guess.
His heaviest is 223 lbs. That's below the AVERAGE opponent of Klitschko.

ADDITIONALLY Ali outweighed his opponents far more than Wlad does.

ADDITIONALLY many of his KOs are contested.

Let alone, that the heavyweight *cough* world title was basically an US-internal contest comparable to the EBU title nowadays.

Ali's career looks somewhat good on paper but it's basically worthless in today's terms.

Let me repeat THAT THE ONLY REASON people think that Ali (or his opponents) would be competitive is THE MISNOMER "heavyweight" which is illegitimately used for eras 70 years ago.

We actually don't even live in a superheavyweight era anymore (200+), we live de facto in an, let's call it, megaweight era (215+), while Ali was living in a 175+ era.

[hweightblogger]

thats why briggs was KTFO by Lewis.. right

He was KOed by Lennox because 1) he was less experienced then and 2) he weighed 34 lbs less.

Additionally you ignore the multiple injuries Briggs suffered against Vitali thus Vitali (though technically not ruled a KO) punished him far more.

[hweightblogger]

So Ali doesnt deserve the praise he gets and Vitali deserves more? heh.

I don't care about the praise The Clay receives. It's dwindling at an astonishing speed anyway.

But to DELETE posts which feature even the slightest criticism of The Clay (for example The Clay's own quotes) is simply WRONG.

However it shows what I have been telling all along: The Clay's followers are in reality a sect of Claytomaniacs watching his fights on their knees.