Shaver's Punching Power Is Completely Overrated.

[hweightblogger]

what quality opposition has Ernie knocked out?

His only mention worthy wins in real heavyweight fights (200x2) were against featherfist Bugner and Ken Norton, who had a loss 9 months prior and who, let's not forget it, never won a world title himself.

He was never even a champ. He had 2 world championship fights and lost both.

Let's also not forget that he was KOed 7 times including by a 37-21 bum and by a 12-86 bum.

I know good-old-time-fetishists rotate in their iron lungs now.

[edgarg]

That is one educated post.


Agreed 100%.

Thank you, I appreciate that. Comments on my posts are often the opposite.

[Rassclot]

Thank you, I appreciate that. Comments on my posts are often the opposite.

honestly it's because we are realists with brains.

most people that post here are kids and ******s that get brain washed easily. they buy into hype and revisionist **********ism.

when we open up the blinds of hype, they start scorching up like gay vampires.


just look at the unfounded insults I got for this thread.

[hweightblogger]

The VAST majority of the top fighters ever, weren't Olympic medal winners.

There are only 2 Olympic gold medalist from the USA in the last 50 years in heaviest weight: Foreman and Frazier (before he got half blind).

Thus, yes, USA sucks at Olympics (compared to the soviet bloc) thus most of the boxers weren't medalists.

[hweightblogger]

Disrespectful post here. You're in idiot, and this thread is awful.

How dare we mere mortals doubt the superhumanity of the boxers of Teh Kolten Age *lips quiver*

Hey, psst... Ali would lose against Lennox 10 out of 10 times. And Shavers is a nobody to Chris Arreola.

And now? Should I be stoned?

[Rassclot]

how dare we mere mortals doubt the superhumanity of the boxers of teh kolten age *lips quiver*

hey, psst... Ali would lose against lennox 10 out of 10 times. And shavers is a nobody to chris arreola.

And now? Should i be stoned?

lol truth

[studentofthegam]

His only mention worthy wins in real heavyweight fights (200x2) were against featherfist Bugner and Ken Norton, who had a loss 9 months prior and who, let's not forget it, never won a world title himself.

He was never even a champ. He had 2 world championship fights and lost both.

Let's also not forget that he was KOed 7 times including by a 37-21 bum and by a 12-86 bum.

I know good-old-time-fetishists rotate in their iron lungs now.

Hitting hard doesnt always translate into wins. Mayorga, West, Miranda

[TOBYLEE1]

The T.S. takes the word of Briggs who is an over-rated HW that never lived to his potential to Ali and Holmes that fought legit competition and were conditioned to fight 15 rounds. On top of that Vitali is no where as active as the boxers of the 70s

[edgarg]

Disrespectful post here. You're in idiot, and this thread is awful. Earnie Shavers had 69 KOs in 75 wins. Ali said Shavers hit him the hardest, and keep in mind Ali fought Foreman, Frazier and Liston. How the **** could you even say Shannon Briggs would know better than Ali? Are you a moron?

Ali fought Liston, Frazier and Foreman a total of what, between 50 and 60 rds, and was down only once at the very end of a Frazier fight in his comeback, when he was totally exhausted and taken a ton of punishment. And lost. Although past his prime, he was still close to it and unbeaten.

When he fought Shavers, he went the whole 15 rds and was never knocked down. This was impressive because it was only a few fights before he finally was retired by Berbick.

He was already a sick guy and not capable of judging anything sure about boxing. He didn't even know that he was washed up, finished, gone, and should be relaxing in an armchair, instead of getting his head beaten off.

I think the fight (or two) after Shavers was the one he lost to 7 fight Leon Spinks, just out of the amateurs, which shows how really far he had deteriorated.

No, the one punch KO fighter has to be the HEAVIER puncher, the clubbing stunning succesive punch fighter may be the more punishing but never the heavier. Gener Fullmer for instance was not on that list at all, he was not a 1 punch KO guy, but was noted for his clubbing successions of stunning punches. he really beat up opponents, doing much more damage than a 1 punch fighter, but not as HARD.

We should also take into consideration the kind of chin the opponent has, but that would be a never ending "round-and-round discussion developing into obscenities, so for the purpose of this question, we are foregoing this.

I'm using just common sense as well as logically true fact..

[hweightblogger]

On top of that Vitali is no where as active as the boxers of the 70s

Wow, you compared thousands of fights and their dates of the 1970s?

Hmm, strange I just did.

You pulled that lie out of your hat. Vitali fights more frequent than Ali, Frazier, Larry Holmes, Leon Spinks (fights from career start to end).

You simply invented stuff.

Wladimir fights even more frequent than Joe Louis.

When you only check the real heavyweight fights (200x2) (since it's so much easier to fight more often against light guys) then it turns out that Wladimir Klitschko (out of 78 world champs) is the second most frequent fighter of all time after Brian Nielsen, who was of course only an IBO champ, thus (if you exclude IBO champs) Wlad is the most frequent real heavyweight champ of all time.

Nostalgists live in some wonderland and it's always a pleasure to smack hard facts into their fantasy paled faces.