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  • #21
    Originally posted by Forza View Post
    Remember shavers lost to that bum Tex Cobb, couldnt put him away. Couldnt even put holmes away with his best shot. Vitali kills either of those guys.

    Vitalis straight right will go down in history as one of the hardest punches in boxing. I cringe thinking what would happen if that 6'7 240 pound beast ever punched me.
    oh yes, Cobb was a bum, despite the fact he arguably beat Buster Douglas despite being past his best and Douglas would go on to KO Tyson, yes yes.

    lets also ignore him taking a beaing from Holmes and going the distance, yup.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by LarryX2011 View Post
      shavers is one of the hardest punches ever...
      I BELIEVE IN FAIRYTALES!


      -LarryX

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      • #23
        Originally posted by MrWestGrand View Post
        Unless you have a fighter who have fought Lewis, Klitchko and Shavers, you assertion can't be proved man.

        Ali fought a lot of huge punchers in his career, and keep in mind Sonny Liston was also considered a beast. So, for Ali to lay that flattering title upon Shavers really says a lot about Shavers pop.


        Ring Magazine's 100 Greatest Punchers

        1. Joe Louis
        2. Sam Langford
        3. Jimmy Wilde
        4. Archie Moore
        5. Sandy Saddler
        6. Stanley Ketchell
        7. Jack Dempsey
        8. Bob Fitzsimmons
        9. George Foreman
        10. Earnie Shavers
        11. Sugar Ray Robinson
        12. Ruben Olivares
        13. Wilfredo Gomez
        14. Rocky Marciano
        15. Sonny Liston
        16. Mike Tyson
        17. Bob Foster
        18. Thomas Hearns
        19. Khaosai Galaxy
        20. Alexis Arguello
        21. Carlos Zarate
        22. Max Baer
        23. Rocky Graziano
        24. Matthew Saad Muhammad
        25. Julian Jackson
        26. Danny Lopez
        27. Gerald McClellan
        28. Roberto Duran
        29. Rodrigo Valdez
        30. Felix Trinidad
        31. Pipino Cuevas
        32. Jim Jefferies
        33. Lennox Lewis
        34. Bennie Briscoe
        35. Marvin Hagler
        36. Edwin Rosario
        37. Tommy Ryan
        38. John Mugabi
        39. Joe Frazier
        40. Carlos Monzon
        41. Tony Zale
        42. Michael Spinks
        43. Joe Gans
        44. Elmer Ray
        45. George Godfrey
        46. Naseem Hamed
        47. Alfonso Zamora
        48. David Tua
        49. Cleveland Williams
        50. Julio Cesar Chavez
        51. Tiger Jack Fox
        52. Joe Walcott
        53. Gerry Cooney
        54. Al (Bummy) Davis
        55. Max Schmeling
        56. Florentino Fernandez
        57. Henry Armstrong
        58. Bob Satterfield
        59. Al Hostak
        60. Jesus Pimentel
        61. Eugene (Cyclone) Hart
        62. Lew Jenkins
        63. Harry Wills
        64. Tom Sharkey
        65. Terry McGovern
        66. Jersey Joe Walcott
        67. Kostya Tszyu
        68. Leotis Martin
        69. Buddy Baer
        70. Donovan (Razor) Ruddock
        71. Jose Luis Ramirez
        72. Tommy Gomez
        73. Jose Napoles
        74. Kid McCoy
        75. Antonio Esparragoza
        76. Ricardo Moreno
        77. Evander Holyfield
        78. Ike Williams
        79. Luis Firpo
        80. Ricardo Lopez
        81. Humberto Gonzalez
        82. Bobby Chacon
        83. Jock McAvoy
        84. Eduardo Lausse
        85. Eder Jofre
        86. Charley Burley
        87. Mike McCallum
        88. Salvador Sanchez
        89. Roy Jones Jr.
        90. Rodolfo Gonzalez
        91. Nigel Benn
        92. (Irish) Bob Murphy
        93. Paul Berlenbach
        94. Battling Torres
        95. Chalky Wright
        96. George (K.O.) Chaney
        97. Andy Ganigan
        98. Fred Fulton
        99. Ingemar Johansson
        100. Charley White


        Source: Ring Magazine (2003)


        http://boxing.about.com/od/history/a/ring_punchers.htm
        Lol.. a top 100 heavy hitters list without either Klitschko is a list i'd use strictly for toilet paper tissue.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Steak View Post
          oh yes, Cobb was a bum, despite the fact he arguably beat Buster Douglas despite being past his best and Douglas would go on to KO Tyson, yes yes.

          lets also ignore him taking a beaing from Holmes and going the distance, yup.

          lol @ the reaching in this post.

          Going the distance with Holmes is surely ATG level ****.

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          • #25
            That rings list is terrible. Tua at 48? archie mooore over rocky marciano who crushed his ass? dempsey over a prime tyson? the ****?

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            • #26
              Welllllllll, It isn't really is it.

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              • #27
                [QUOTE=LarryX2011;10371214]shavers is one of the hardest punches ever...

                Shavers was a very strong puncher in a small frame and i think that Shannon Briggs knows that boxing is about hitting and not getting hit and after Vitali hit him so many times flush and broke his face,of couse Briggs is going to say Vitali's the hardest puncher!

                When shannon fought foreman and lewis he was much more agile reflex wise and didn't absorb so many repeated hard shots.

                Mike Tyson was only a small heavyweight and we all know how tyson ****s,so let earniies weight fool ya,he could **** too!

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                • #28
                  Earnie probably is the No. 1 amongst the hardest 1-punch hitters, confirmed by both Ali and Larry Holmes. It's not the same as to say he would have beaten Tyson or Wlad. He wouldn't. But for 1-punch power, he beats 'em.
                  Last edited by Ben Bolt; 04-13-2011, 05:35 PM.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by jimmy1569 View Post
                    Lol.. a top 100 heavy hitters list without either Klitschko is a list i'd use strictly for toilet paper tissue.
                    I'm starting a new thread just for you.

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                    • #30
                      First of all one punch knockout power is NOT the end all be all of how much power you have behind your punches... it's just an indicator of how accurate you are with your delivery. Guys like Foreman & most sluggers it's there second & third shots that is more powerful than the one that initially got your attention as Now you no longer have a moving target & what does one do with target practice? They teeoff with there best shots. This is where guys like Foreman. VKlitschko..even Evander Holyfield start to display the ferocity of there shots. One punch power is there but the accumulation sluggers are the ones that really **** you up as they're tagging you with 5 or 6 bombs & prolonging your pain as opposed to giving you ONLY one shot & letting you off easy. It's the multiple knockdown guys within the fight that are the hardest punchers as they get to tee off on you & show you it's not lady luck at work.

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