So... Morales was shot to pieces when Manny fought him!?

[jrosales13]

I SMH at some of these responses.

So what is the argument? That Morales looked good against Maidana therefor wasn't shot to pieces?

Corley is shot to pieces and arguably beat Maidana like 9 months ago.

So there goes that theory.

Morales wasn't shot against Pac in the first fight. But, he wasn't the same Morales either, he wasn't prime. That is why Pac was the big favorite going into the fight. That was quite an upset actually.

I have no beef with the 2nd Pac-Morales fight. It was OK. Just because I understand wanting to avenge a loss.

The 3rd fight by that time yes Morales was shot. And, very well likely weight-drained as well. And, team Pac knew Morales was having a lot of trouble making 130. That's why team Pac WENT AGAINST COMMISSION RULES AND DEMANDED THEIR OWN WEIGHT PENALTY. There was no reason to demand such a penalty because Morales had never failed to make weight. But, team Pac knew that Morales could not really make 130 anymore so they insistent on a severe penalty just in case. Damn near forcing Morales to drain himself.

Fact is the 3rd fight should have never happened period. It was a waste of time.

And, Pac is greater than Morales. Is really not even close.

[jrosales13]

Flouyd lost to castillo i wonder what loss is more embarassing. Pac losing to a top 50 ATG fighter while WIP, or Floyd losing to the guy who Hatton beat castillo.?

Pac has never lost to a top 50 ATG. Matter of fact Pac never fought a top 50 ATG actually.

[IronDanHamza]

Flouyd lost to castillo i wonder what loss is more embarassing. Pac losing to a top 50 ATG fighter while WIP, or Floyd losing to the guy who Hatton beat castillo.?

I have never known anyone overuse such an idiotic ideology like triangle theories so much.

Castillo lost to Hatton when he was done, and so what if he lost to Hatton? What does that even mean?? And Floyd didn't even lose.

Pacqiauo lost to Morales...Who cares? Morales is an ATG fighter, no shame in that.

[mikemurni]

I SMH at some of these responses.

So what is the argument? That Morales looked good against Maidana therefor wasn't shot to pieces?

Corley is shot to pieces and arguably beat Maidana like 9 months ago.

So there goes that theory.

Morales wasn't shot against Pac in the first fight. But, he wasn't the same Morales either, he wasn't prime. That is why Pac was the big favorite going into the fight. That was quite an upset actually.

I have no beef with the 2nd Pac-Morales fight. It was OK. Just because I understand wanting avenge a lost.

The 3rd fight by that time yes Morales was shot. And, very well likely weight-drained as well. And, team Pac knew Morales was having a lot of trouble making 130. That's why team Pac WENT AGAINST COMMISSION RULES AND DEMANDED THEIR OWN WEIGHT PENALTY. There was no reason to demand such a penalty because Morales had never failed to make weight. But, team Pac knew that Morales could not really make 130 anymore so they insistent on a severe penalty just in case. Damn near forcing Morales to drain himself.

Fact is the 3rd fight should have never happened period. It was a waste of time.

And, Pac is greater than Morales. Is really not even close.

The fight happened because Morales exercised the rematch clause (third fight) specified in the contract of the second fight. He was obligated to give Morales a 3rd fight.

MAB-Pac rematch was already in discussion after he defeated Morales until Top Rank (morales promoter) issued a statement demanding a rematch (third fight), which Pac had to agree.

[hugh grant]

Pac has never lost to a top 50 ATG. Matter of fact Pac never fought a top 50 ATG actually.

Yes history of boxing is long. But ive heard the names of Barrera, JMM being thrown around to be around the top 50 boxers of all time and Morales.

[jrosales13]

The fight happened because Morales exercised the rematch clause (third fight) specified in the contract for the second fight. He was obligated to give Morales a 3rd fight.

MAB-Pac rematch was already in discussion after he defeated Morales until Top Rank (morales promoter) issued a statement demanding a rematch (third fight), which Pac had to agree.

No not really. He didn't really have to fight him the 3rd time.

Oh and BTW, the Pac-MAB rematch was also a waste of time that shouldn't of happened.

[IronDanHamza]

Yes history of boxing is long. But ive heard the names of Barrera, JMM being thrown around to be around the top 50 boxers of all time and Morales.

By who? I have never heard that, ever.

None of them are top 50 fighters especially not JMM.

[jrosales13]

Yes history of boxing is long. But ive heard the names of Barrera, JMM being thrown around to be around the top 50 boxers of all time and Morales.

But, neither of those guys are top 50 ATG, Only people who don't know about the history throws those names around top 50 ATG.

The only Mexican fighters who are top 50 ATG are JCC, Chava, and El Puas

[Battle*Hardened]

Maybe, but weight drained? Yes...

[mikemurni]

No not really. He didn't really have to fight him the 3rd time.

Oh and BTW, the Pac-MAB rematch was also a waste of time that shouldn't of happened.

What do you mean. It was specified in the contract. And Morales exercised it.

MAB-Pac fight wasnt a waste of time because MAB was coming out of a series of victories after his loss with Pac including the win against Morales. He was ranked #4 in the P4P list. So there is a legit discussion to have a MAB-Pac rematch after Pac defeated Morales in their 2nd fight.

But then Morales exercised the rights for a third fight, then Pac signing 2 contracts, and then Marquez beating MAB, which made the MAB-Pac rematch insignificant.