Serious Question: Why did Pac ask Floyd to pay a 10 Million per pound weight penalty?

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  • V.WEBB
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    #381
    Originally posted by Alibata
    Yeah but he accepted right???? He did better than that right???? Guess what. it was of the table... WTF???? I figured Floyd, like manny maybe would have figured or any fighter willing to fight and giving credit to the other for wanting the same thing that it was a negotiating bait(the time frame) and that it did not work for his favor floyd was bluffing about taking it off the table. . I think this is what turned the tide against Floyd in most fans eyes and the media. Because it is ridiculous that if you want to fight that you take something you were willing to do "off the table". Floyd ain't a 2 day sale that goes for everyone.. It is a negotiation with one man and desires.. Who wants the fight, the man that took 14 days of the table??? weigh the excuses *****s.
    It's 2011 and you still don't understand that in negotiations that rejected offers actually taken off the table huh?

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    • STRUGG
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      #382
      he cheated once..........thats why................and its documented unlike..........*****s and their twisted reasoning.............LOL

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      • megadeth
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        #383
        Originally posted by fabie
        We can make it purple instead of RED if you like...
        Originally posted by fabie
        Why is the 14-day an IMPOSITION? hahahaha...those are just words but the imposer himself isn't credible to "demand" such things. Anything can be contractual and agreed upon....but it cannot be imposed.
        I guess the same way the 50-50 was an "imposition" right? I seem to recall Freddie and Arum saying that Pac would get the higher % or not fight.

        FMJ made a demand for OST in the original negotiations for which Freddie Roach admits that they agreed to, only to change their minds later. Pac moved from 0 days to 30 and stopped at 24 after getting caught lying. Whether u like it or not, 14 days was a compromise from the guy that was moving TOWARDS the compromise as away from it like Pac was.


        Originally posted by fabie
        Listing the "demands" one can make a litany of Mayweatherisms...we can add to the latest which is a 100-million-dollar-demand.
        Yep right out of Arums mouth...Got it!

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        • FerdinandMarcos
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          #384
          Originally posted by Alibata
          Coming from a dude that defends Floyds reasoning of "wanting to clean the sport." Why did floyd want Pac to take the tests? What ever answer you give, is it Floyd's reasoning you are defending?.. Because we just state the obvious regardless of what comes out of Floyd's mouth; fear of losing is the obvious reason.
          What's so bad about PROVING you are clean??

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          • V.WEBB
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            #385
            Why did he take the deal off the table if he wanted the fight??

            AS IF THE GUY THAT IT IS WAS OFFERED DIDN'T PREVIOUSLY REJECT IT, but I expect those kinds of questions from you guys.

            Last edited by V.WEBB; 04-13-2011, 04:13 PM.

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            • fabie
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              #386
              Originally posted by IMDAZED
              Sane reasoning? Yeah right. Whatever the case, it's not Manny's reasoning. But go ahead, keep making up reasons for him.

              How about this...why not defend HIS reasons?
              Only Pacquiao can defend his reasoning, but I can empathize. Likewise defend Mayweather's reasoning if there's any.

              The whole point is that can be either of their reasoning but there should be a COMMISSION that is supposedly authoritative that can impose policies to prevent these from happening.

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              • Slick_Rick
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                #387
                Originally posted by IMDAZED
                I didn't think you could.
                Right, so are you a Doctor yet

                And what exactly is "steroid studying"? Is it Pharmaceutical Sciences, yes?

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                • V.WEBB
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                  #388
                  And stop acting like Manny agreed THEN Floyd took the deal off the table. Some of you guys are experts at TRYING to re-write history.

                  Jan 2010 - Manny rejects 14 days that Floyd offered him in the mediation. He still wanted 24 days.

                  Feb 2010 - Floyd moves off the 14 days that Manny rejected and says no cut off if he wants to fight.

                  May or June 2010 - Manny agrees to 14 days that doesn't even exist anymore.

                  Above is the TRUTH, stop lying and making up stuff, you know who you are. And I have the links on stand by.

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                  • IMDAZED
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                    #389
                    Originally posted by fabie
                    Only Pacquiao can defend his reasoning, but I can empathize. Likewise defend Mayweather's reasoning if there's any.
                    Empathizing by creating your own reasons on his behalf. I see.

                    The whole point is that can be either of their reasoning but there should be a COMMISSION that is supposedly authoritative that can impose policies to prevent these from happening
                    There is a commission. When it comes to weight fees, Pacquiao finds them irrelevant. When it comes to drug testing, they are the only authority that matters to him.

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                    • fabie
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                      #390
                      Originally posted by FerdinandMarcos
                      What's so bad about PROVING you are clean??
                      If you "Accuse" someone - is it readily valid to test that because of one's whim? Say you accuse me of stealing your car or crying foul because the president ****d your sister...

                      DO YOU HAVE PROBABLE CAUSE AND GROUNDS TO MAKE TESTING AND INQUIRIES READILY?

                      No. It's because you have to go through preliminary hearings to make a case first and foremost and have to be validated inorder for an authoritative body (such as the court) to order a testing or a trial.

                      Mayweather's accusation is nothing unless he brings it to a court...he cannot impose nor make any IMPOSITION - neither can he enact nor enforce it.

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