Ok...I promised you a more legit VK thread.....

[AKATheMack]

I favor Vitali over either one in a fight to the death.

[Marchegiano]

lol you guys act like what if and what was matters. Klitschko was winning some fights he lost...he lost. Klitschko has a decent chance on winning in a rematch....no rematch.

[ADP02]

You can't take away a moment like. You have previously tried to diminish that punch and now even doing the "IF" it never happened.

[jimmy1569]

You can't take away a moment like. You have previously tried to diminish that punch and now even doing the "IF" it never happened.

Would it Kill people for Vitali to be on even terms physically with the fighters that scored a tainted victory over him or do we simply have to beat him when he's not at 100% or perhaps maybe the thought of a 100% Vk FOR the duration of an entire bout scares people too much & it'll no longer be an even matchup as it is when he's at 50% fighting capacity...ummmmmm!

[betmen]

where everyone can participate... much more simple.. since we're discussing Vitali's 2 blemishes on his record. We KNOW they're losses in his records.

What I want to know is how do you think both fights would've transpired if we took away or stitched up the cuts during the Lewis fight & repaired his shoulder during the Byrd fight... let's for all intents & purposes continue both bouts at the point of the cut & when the shoulder gave out. We know exactly when his cut occurred vs Lewis & that was the opening of the 3rd rd. We don't know exactly when Vitali's shoulder gave out.. it was most likely a slow process during the fight & started really bothering him in the last round or two. so let's pick it up from rd 8 & The Lewis fight from rd 3 right at the bell to signal the respective rds.

What do you think would've progressed from there based on what happened in the previous rds? For Lewis it's the first 2 rds & for Byrd it's the first 7 rds. These are essentially the first 9 rds when Vitali was relatively on even ground with both fighters. He fought 2 more rds vs Byrd & 4 more vs Lennox with his injuries..what would've happened without them based on the action before he got hurt?

weak.....
dude, weak....

[betmen]

Nobody got dropped here.. so this doesn't equate.. we're talking about cuts & dislocated shoulders. To answer your question anyways.... he would've stayed on his feet.

jimmy the cut was cause by a punch.
the shoulder injury cause by punisment to the body.

i respect vitaly as the best in this generation, but in those two fight vitaly is LOSE. so stop beetchin

[cklmaced]

This is probably the most ****** thread I have ever seen.

1. Vitali quit against Byrd his own decision nobody else's its not like the ref made him quit.
2. Lewis caused the cut with a punch only Klit nuthuggers think otherwise. I mean some of the comments here are ******ed like no way a punch could cause that cut. Yet somehow Lewis's braids can rip open his face at the same time.

Here's a what if for you if Vitali is known to have taken steroids which still have benefits after you have stopped using, he really shouldn't be allowed box at all.

http://grg51.typepad.com/steroid_nat...s-suggest.html

[Poet682006]

The only real question here is "who's sock-puppet alt is jimmy1569?"

[ADP02]

Would it Kill people for Vitali to be on even terms physically with the fighters that scored a tainted victory over him or do we simply have to beat him when he's not at 100% or perhaps maybe the thought of a 100% Vk FOR the duration of an entire bout scares people too much & it'll no longer be an even matchup as it is when he's at 50% fighting capacity...ummmmmm!

Vitali was on even terms at the beginning of the fight. Actually he may have had an edge physically because Lewis came in to the fight NOT in good shape .

Anything that happens after the start of the first round is fair game as long as it's legal or non-accidental. Furthermore, you start by saying "IF", which is already making it a fantasy fight BUT in reality you are not just saying "IF" by your statements, you are saying way more than that!!!

[AKATheMack]

Joe Louis: Liston had to quit because he tore his shoulder
Ali: Swinging at nothing all night, who wouldn't?