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  • IronDanHamza
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    #51
    Originally posted by pacquia0
    Why do you dislike your ****** brothers?

    Joe Louis openly praised the American government, yet your a fan of this guy over your own ****** borthers.
    I don't know where you are getting lost.

    But I just told you I dislike him as a boxer, not a man.

    And Mike Tyson is in my Top 5 favourite fighters.

    I don't care about Joe Louis' life, man. I don't care who he praised and didn't praise. This is boxing and I care about what he did in the ring.

    And what he did in the ring is sufficently more than what Mike Tyson did in the ring. Thus I rank him higher.

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    • AKATheMack
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      #52
      Originally posted by LarryX2011
      lol...

      tyson that fought spinks

      versus

      ali that fought sonny liston


      ali boxes his ears off
      Tyson that fought Douglas vs the Ali that faced Doug Jones, Tyson stops Ali.

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      • jimmy1569
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        #53
        Originally posted by etlux
        great post
        Lol...i would hope you're female as that's how I roll & that's how my boy Vitali rolls as well...:P

        We got the MOST dominating fighter in boxing history staring us right in the eyes.. all the intangibles of size strength...numbers ALL IN HIS FAVOR & we want to bring up Joe Louis who probably would be blasted out in the very first rd just like another fighter who's name ended in is if we were to keep it real. Ali could've danced all night & did the rope a dope..he certainly ain't ko'ing Klitschko & even if worst case scenario he made him miss alot... as KJ & cHRIS bYRD surely did.. they ONLY won 1 rd BETWEEN them out of 21 DESPITE making Vitali miss the majority of the time with stellar d & upper body movement.

        I'll let everyone in on a little secret as to why YOU can NOT legitimately beat him.... you wannna know the REAL reason why? It;s pretty simple... HE'S the one fighter at least in the history of the division where you WILL NOT WIND UP THROWING MORE SHOTS THAN HIM FOR THE DURATION OF THE FIGHT..... NEVER HAPPENED & NEVER WILL HAPPEN.

        This means despite all his other advantages of size & strength.. he's ALWAYS ready to hit you.. (HIT OR MISS) regardless of what he's throwing.. how powerful it is. He simply throws punches & the NAME of the game is to throw punches & MOST of the time he tags you unless you're born with a gift of exceptional defense & uncanny upper body movement.. shoulder rolls.etc such as a Byrd.. Johnson & you can throw James Toney IN THERE. But you better believe that if he's missing you alot because you're concentrating on D... THERE'S NO INCOMING AT ALL coming his way AS that's your main focus.. Not to get hit & if he's being aggressive.. & letting his hands go AT ALL TIMES... HE'LL get the nod.
        The one main reason you can't beat him IS BECAUSE HE LETS HIS HANDS GO AT ALL TIMES...TRUSTING THAT HE CAN HIT YOU MOST OF THE TIME & YOU CAN;T HIT HIM.. there's been few instances as i said where he couldn't hit you & he still dominated & there's been a few instances where he could be hit & he still dominated..
        When you've got offensive & defensive dominance SHORED UP & even when one or the other doesn't WORK & YOU'RE still outboxing everybody... sorry but it's NOT happening. VitALI Klitschko hits you more than you hit him....his recipe is to throw punches in bunches while getting hit the least.. In other words the amount of punches he lands on you to the amount of punches you land on him is greater than anyone else in the history of the divison & that's why if you can't win A DECISION over him & you can;t knock him out...is there any OTHER way to defeat him...you have your answer & it's written in his record as 2 LS because his body failed him & that's THE ONLY reason HE DIDN'T keep on winning those bouts & failed to complete them.

        I rest my case & you can all tear it down the way you see fit but deep down you know there's way too much circumstantial evidence here for him NOT to be...he has EVERYTHING shored up except for merely staying in the ring. I judge BY WHAT he did in the ring when they were ACTUALLY fighting.. i don'T look at the end result as LOSSES like it states in the record books>>> I KNOW to me it's just 2 INC'S (INCOMPLETE FIGHTS THAT HE WAS WINNING) & the fact there's NO other blemishes ANYWHERE IN HIS ENTIRE CAREER.. NO KNOCKDOWNS..NOT BEING OUTSCORED EVER. NO ONE HAS EVER BEAT HIM ON COMPUBOX STATS ACROSS THE BOARD (THAT'S A RECORD TOO AS I CHALLENGE ANYONE TO COME UP WITH A HEAVYWEIGHT WHO'S NOT HAD ONE OFF NIGHT IN THAT CATEGORY) sIMPLY PUT,,, if you're completely unbeatable in all of boxings WAYS to win a fight & you have 2 blemishes because you were injured.. IM' 100% going to blame those INJURIES for beating you & NOT THE OPPONENT. Both victors of Klitschko showed resolve & stamina to see those fights through/// it's like a forfeit or win by default.

        I guess that's it.. in most sports if you have the most dominating numbers like Babe Ruth & Michael Jordan...you're usually the GOAT... vITALI KLITSCHKO HAS the most dominating numbers BAR NONE in HEAVYWEIGHT HISTORY... do with that what you will but MAKE no mistake.... you can't REFute hE has the UNOFFICIAL best numbers ever for a career.
        Last edited by jimmy1569; 04-06-2011, 11:58 AM.

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        • jrosales13
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          #54
          The Klitschko fan base has to be dumbest most gayest fan base in the world.

          The only reason Pac fan base and Floyd fan base beats them in those categories is because they have a bigger fan base.

          But, P4P Klitschko fan base are the worse fan base going right now.

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          • bojangles1987
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            #55
            Originally posted by jrosales13
            The Klitschko fan base has to be dumbest most gayest fan base in the world.

            The only reason Pac fan base and Floyd fan base beats them in those categories is because they have a bigger fan base.

            But, P4P Klitschko fan base are the worse fan base going right now.
            I've been telling people that, there may be more Pacquiao and Mayweather fans but damn do the Klitschko nuthuggers annoy me to no end. Far worse than Pac or Floyd's trolls do.

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            • jimmy1569
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              #56
              Originally posted by jrosales13
              The Klitschko fan base has to be dumbest most gayest fan base in the world.

              The only reason Pac fan base and Floyd fan base beats them in those categories is because they have a bigger fan base.

              But, P4P Klitschko fan base are the worse fan base going right now.
              Is that all you got.... Son? Idiot..probably didn't even read a couple of lines of my post where I went into detail as to why I think he's the best. The fact that you can't refute anything i stated is why you came up with this lame rebuttal.

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                #57
                Originally posted by bojangles1987
                I've been telling people that, there may be more Pacquiao and Mayweather fans but damn do the Klitschko nuthuggers annoy me to no end. Far worse than Pac or Floyd's trolls do.
                Anyone calling himself Bojingles of '87 I DON'T take seriously but you're entitled to your opinion however misconscrued it is.

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                • jrosales13
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by jimmy1569
                  Is that all you got.... Son? Idiot..probably didn't even read a couple of lines of my post where I went into detail as to why I think he's the best. The fact that you can't refute anything i stated is why you came up with this lame rebuttal.
                  The fact that you think somebody who's greatest win of his career came against a golfer. Is the GOAT. Is all I need to know about ******ity and ignorance of the sport, SON.
                  Last edited by jrosales13; 04-06-2011, 12:42 PM.

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                  • jimmy1569
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by jrosales13
                    The fact that you think somebody who's greatest win of his career came against a golfer. Is the GOAT. Is all I need to know about ******ity and ignorance of the sport, SON.
                    Forget about his greatest win for a second..... find me HIS greatest loss & then we can meet in the middle. Btw. his greatest wins are the ones he gets by knockouts about 89% of the time but you wouldn't know anything about that..now would you son.. seeing how no one you represent cAN SNIFF thaT knockout accuracy. Btw THAT golfer could KO 95% OF the fighters in heavyweight history if he lands with his lefthanded swing... Vitali was one of the ones he couldn't. His brother failed that test. Lennox REFUSED any of that golfer's actions as well as many who ducked him through the years...so get your facts straight & come back & apologize in a legit manner & i'll think of a accepting.. K.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by jimmy1569
                      Forget about his greatest win for a second..... find me HIS greatest loss & then we can meet in the middle. Btw. his greatest wins are the ones he gets by knockouts about 89% of the time but you wouldn't know anything about that..now would you son.. seeing how no one you represent cAN SNIFF thaT knockout accuracy. Btw THAT golfer could KO 95% OF the fighters in heavyweight history if he lands with his lefthanded swing... Vitali was one of the ones he couldn't. His brother failed that test. Lennox REFUSED any of that golfer's actions as well as many who ducked him through the years...so get your facts straight & come back & apologize in a legit manner & i'll think of a accepting.. K.
                      His greatest win is against a golfer or his greatest wins are fights that he LOST in.

                      And, he suppose to be the GOAT?



                      Pathetic. He's not even a HOF'er.

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