why don't Berto fans admit Berto duck Mosley??

[Visceral]

Cotto was not a threat??Most thought Hoya would win,Let's not call Pac a HOF fighters resume into question here..It's Berto who is yet to take a dangerous fight..

You've got me on Cotto. The Hoya fight was a risk but this was before Pac was a cash cow and Pac's handlers made sure the weight favored him.

[Mr. Philadel]

its clear as day..in the 2nd negotiations he priced himself out..and after he pulled after the 1st fight he ended up fighting befroe mosley fought floyd..

as usual you hit the nail on the head X

[SpitBalla]

Berto is a coward and a fraud.

He didn't even make the Mosley fight happen the second time by pricing himself out?

Mosley is a hall of famer, no way in hell does Berto deserve 50/50.

And Berto has no legacy and no fans and NO RESPECT. So why didn't he take the one chance he had to change this? The one chance? Because he is a coward.

He is what 29 now? ANd he has not done anything. Its too late for him to be a star. Fans are interested in new upcoming fighers, Berto had his chance and blew it big time.

[jqSide]

Was very clear. Clear as day. Berto was lucky to have the earthquake excuse. You've always wonder what he did in Haiti when he knew his family were unscathed before even going there. Even then he should have made an effort to make the fight happen after that. It's clear that he's terrified of what might Shane do to him in the ring.

[Rome-By-Ko]

You've got me on Cotto. The Hoya fight was a risk but this was before Pac was a cash cow and Pac's handlers made sure the weight favored him.

Come on man,he fought Clottey at 147lb,he fought Cotto at 146lb and I doubt that one 1lb did anything to Cotto..Matter of fact Cotto fought(and beat Clottey)at 146lbs..Marga's you got that one,but Marga's is like 6 foot something..So other then Marga's everyone had a fair shake of it..

[Rome-By-Ko]

LMAO berto has fans?

Sadly enough he does,and as you can see in this thread they root for him although he spits on them with crap fights..Being a fan of this guy is what enables him to act like he does not need to fight real threats that are on the same level he is..He try's to act as if he is on another level when really he has not proven anything himself,at this point I give Mike Jones more credit then him and he is not even a belt holder sad if ya ask me..

[J Dubb II 330]

When you can back a statement up with a fact that is no longer an opinion..You have stated many opinions in this thread but yet to provide any facts..

Fact..A Berto Mosley fight does wonders for Berto's career..Why not take it??

Fact..Berto wa signed to fight Mosley with a 60/40 split in Mosley favor,so why when ya come back ya ask for 50/50??The fight was still lucrative in both money and name recantation for Berto to not take this fight is a clear duck..

Berto not to have fought a top 5 WW is also a disgrace...And also a fact..Where are ya facts at bro??

of.course mosley does but once.again, mosley walked away, Berto seen him.get embarrassed and wanted 50-50 the.dumb part is you think.he asked for 50-50 knowing mosley would say no so.he didn't have to.fight that is.ignorant logic, Berto sees himself as a star, thinks gets a even split boxing against Mosley.coming off a loss, Mosley once.again walked away to fight Mora = less risk, more money even though he probably didn't get more money, how that work out? great actually he got a draw and a Manny pay day Berto sees himself as an attraction, regardless if he is or not, the problem with most of.you is your looking from the outside in and don't know.**** about what's really going on nor do I, you actually.only.have one fact and that's the top 5 ww, everything else is your opinion, I'm sure some would say mosley is past his prime anyways who cares if Berto beats him, Mosley is number 3 right now because of his name. As for Bertos resume, he has some good names.but once.again who.he fights is.dictated.by Dibella and HBO who make the decision on who he fights and where the most money is, Berto is not a superstar, Like Manny or Floyd. like he said he don't care about the critics he's the one getting in the ring.

[J Dubb II 330]

Was very clear. Clear as day. Berto was lucky to have the earthquake excuse. You've always wonder what he did in Haiti when he knew his family were unscathed before even going there. Even then he should have made an effort to make the fight happen after that. It's clear that he's terrified of what might Shane do to him in the ring.

He had family members die moron, Going over to help his home country after a tragedy is more important than any boxing match.

[Rome-By-Ko]

of.course mosley does but once.again, mosley walked away, Berto seen him.get embarrassed and wanted 50-50 the.dumb part is you think.he asked for 50-50 knowing mosley would say no so.he didn't have to.fight that is.ignorant logic, Berto sees himself as a star, thinks gets a even split boxing against Mosley.coming off a loss, Mosley once.again walked away to fight Mora = less risk, more money even though he probably didn't get more money, how that work out? great actually he got a draw and a Manny pay day Berto sees himself as an attraction, regardless if he is or not, the problem with most of.you is your looking from the outside in and don't know.**** about what's really going on nor do I, you actually.only.have one fact and that's the top 5 ww, everything else is your opinion, I'm sure some would say mosley is past his prime anyways who cares if Berto beats him, Mosley is number 3 right now because of his name. As for Bertos resume, he has some good names.but once.again who.he fights is.dictated.by Dibella and HBO who make the decision on who he fights and where the most money is, Berto is not a superstar, Like Manny or Floyd. like he said he don't care about the critics he's the one getting in the ring.

Bunch of contradiction in ya post,you say Mosley walk away right??Of course he did when Berto refused to go lower then 50/50..Fact

Fact.Mora is a bigger risk then Berto,he is a tall boxer who does not like to exchange..Sounds a lot like Winky and Forest two guy's who beat Mosley,going in most boxing experts all said they did not like the style for Mosley..so how is that fight less risk then one against a guy who imo is nothing but a homeless mans Mosley anyway..Oh by the way Mora is a more dangerous opponent then Berto(style wise)that's also a fact..

Do you really believe HBO and Dibella make all this dudes dec for him??Do they also tell him open wide here comes the air plan??Berto is a big boy and if he really wanted to fight Mosley or anyone else for that matter he knows how to go about doing it..Dibella also promotes Cintron and Martinez they have no problem talking for Themselves..

Once again those are facts not opinion,fact that Mosley after the fight fell threw(because of Fact Berto pricing himself out)fought a style known to be difficult for him..Fact it's B.S. to say HBO and or his promoters make all hi choices for him(they may change his diaper as well)where are ya facts bro..Why does an Al Haymond fighters resume or lack there of always come into question??Except Pwilly much love and respect for the Punisher..

Oh yea and it is a fact that a fight before the May fight Mosley sold out the Staple Center..It's also a Fact that right after that he was part of the biggest PPV of 2010..Are those not facts as well??

[J Dubb II 330]

Bunch of contradiction in ya post,you say Mosley walk away right??Of course he did when Berto refused to go lower then 50/50..Fact

Fact.Mora is a bigger risk then Berto,he is a tall boxer who does not like to exchange..Sounds a lot like Winky and Forest two guy's who beat Mosley,going in most boxing experts all said they did not like the style for Mosley..so how is that fight less risk then one against a guy who imo is nothing but a homeless mans Mosley anyway..Oh by the way Mora is a more dangerous opponent then Berto(style wise)that's also a fact..

Do you really believe HBO and Dibella make all this dudes dec for him??Do they also tell him open wide here comes the air plan??Berto is a big boy and if he really wanted to fight Mosley or anyone else for that matter he knows how to go about doing it..Dibella also promotes Cintron and Martinez they have no problem talking for Themselves..

Once again those are facts not opinion,fact that Mosley after the fight fell threw(because of Fact Berto pricing himself out)fought a style known to be difficult for him..Fact it's B.S. to say HBO and or his promoters make all hi choices for him(they may change his diaper as well)where are ya facts bro..Why does an Al Haymond fighters resume or lack there of always come into question??Except Pwilly much love and respect for the Punisher..

Oh yea and it is a fact that a fight before the May fight Mosley sold out the Staple Center..It's also a Fact that right after that he was part of the biggest PPV of 2010..Are those not facts as well??

Mosley still walked away, Mora is not a bigger risk, especially based on being taller, lol really, Berto is a big boy still don't mean he gets what he wants, did Cintron pursue the fight with Dibella? Usually that's what a promoter and manager do is make decisions hence the reason they are hired. that's great mosley sold.out the staples, its awesome under Floyds name they sold 1.4 and under Manny I'm sure they will sell 1.4 mill, but once again these are all speculations as to why Berto - Mosley didn't happen, I will.give.you this you put together a nice believable presentation, but the fact is Mosley walked away because Berto wanted 50-50, The fact is you believe with some twisted logic Berto did that on purpose to not fight Mosley, god forbid someone think they deserve 50-50. And again how is Mosley really gonna help no one gives Floyd credit, Manny wont get credit especially not from me, but Berto will. I can't argue his resume, it stinks and makes him look bad but once again Dibella and HBO have the final decision, once again too many boxing matches are weighed on money and not the match up, But what it comes down to is your opinion Berto ducked, my opinion he didn't and Mosley walked away, because of money, I'm not gonna reply to your posts because again arguing is useless we have two different opinions from two different people who are on the outside looking in and don't know **** about the inside. I'm going to bed, enjoy your day, goodbye