why don't Berto fans admit Berto duck Mosley??

[llamas1]

Why don't Berto fan's admit it already,Berto asking for 50/50 was a duck move and inexcusable..Now dude is fighting Ortiz,I can't wait for the post fight interview when Maxi leans in and ask Berto who's next..I bet he say's Pac and nobody else,dude think he's gonna get a big payday without earning it kid is a joke...

I agree... Dude should fight up to a Pac fight.... Give him to Cotto Next..

[jtiger777]

There is sooooooooo much to say about the conversations that have taken place in this thread. I honestly dont know where to start.........I got it!!!!!!!!! Lets start with the fact that I am a fan of both Shane Mosley and Andre Berto.

Rome. You know you are my Homie, my Ace, my Potna. But you are wrong on so many levels in regards to calling Berto a duck for the 2nd round of negotiations(especially in the business sense of the matter). You are wrong about Mosley vs. Mora. You are wrong about Mosely and JMM's drawing power(We all now that JMM has a hard time drawing huge crowds, as well as Shane himself).

There are very few facts that help Mosley(No longer the WBA WW Champ after 05/01/10)in his case for turning down Berto(The WBC WW Champ, regardless of the fact that he won a vacant title. Hell if you want to talk about vacant title grabbers Cotto should be on the lips of many, remember Paul Williams......Yeah that guy was a WW title holder I wonder who has THAT belt now, could it be Manny?????? Where did he get that belt???????? Oh Yeah..........Cotto).

Weither you all want to admit it or not. These Belts(WBC, WBA, WBO, IBF)play a very important role in negotiations for bouts. Please see break down below.

1st round of negotiations.......
Mosley+Ring Legend+WBA WW Title= 60% purse.
Berto+Young Undefeated Champion+WBC WW Title= 40% purse.

Fair Deal.

2nd round of negotiations.......
Mosley+Ring Legend-WBA WW Title=50% purse.
Berto+Young Undefeated Champion+WBC WW Title=50% purse.

Fair Deal.

See it's logical, not hard to follow at all.

Now I agree that Shane is a sure fire HOFer and a current ring Legend. But it seems alot of ya'll are living off of Shane's past glory years, and thus inciting that as a case for Shane to turn down a Championship fight. He got ya'll goin with Margo, but before the Margo fight talk around town was that he should hang um up, and he's fading(see Mayorga fight.......last second KO, but was having more of a dificult time than expected)

Look at it like this Joe Louis was NOT the A-side on the Marciano vs. Louis match up, regardless of the fact that Joe was a legend. Same rule applies in a sense with Shane(albeit Shane is not THAT far past it, but nonetheless he showed in the Mayweather fight that he is somewhat past it for the most part, unless you all are willing to admit that Floyd is THAT good. Which I doubt any of you are willing to do).

So in my eyes. Young Champion WBC Belt Holder vs. Ring Legend coming off of an embrassing drubbing on the down side of his career equals 50/50. Losing the belt has to cost something, and it cost Shane 10% at the negotiation table. That was something that Shane was NOT willing to accept, and it's his right to not accept it as he has earned the right to pick and choose his opponents. But considering the business dynamics involved. It was a fair deal. I am willing to field any questions in regards to this post.

great post people take that ducking word and run with it

[jtiger777]

I agree... Dude should fight up to a Pac fight.... Give him to Cotto Next..

cotto vs berto would be good how do u see it playing out

[jtiger777]

When has Shane Mosley ever been a draw?

when he fought floyd... for obvious reasons lol

[Rome-By-Ko]

When has Shane Mosley ever been a draw?

I don't remember ever saying he was,but you can beat ya azz in a fight between Mosley and Berto Mosley would be the A side of things bro..

[AllEyesOpen]

Berto's wasting time and he knows it. He needs to get at the best at the division, even more so now that the ww division is wide open for the taking.

People are sick of seeing what was thought to be a big prospect a few years ago fight nobodies.

[Rome-By-Ko]

when he fought floyd... for obvious reasons lol

How bout with Margas??Do you think the gov of cali and sly came out to see Margas??

[V.WEBB]

I don't remember ever saying he was,but you can beat ya azz in a fight between Mosley and Berto Mosley would be the A side of things bro..

I know you didn't say that, just throwing the question out there. Mosley have never really been a huge star. I mean, he's well known, but he's never been a huge draw or a crossover star. And, I agree he would be the A side against Berto. But even then, wasn't that fight scheduled to be on WCB on HBO and not PPV?

[Rome-By-Ko]

I know you didn't say that, just throwing the question out there. Mosley have never really been a huge star. I mean, he's well known, but he's never been a huge draw or a crossover star. And, I agree he would be the A side against Berto. But even then, wasn't that fight scheduled to be on WCB on HBO and not PPV?

Yes it was,but I don't see ya point??Mosley has been part(also help sell)big events Berto has not..

[Living Legend]

Berto knows Shane would get in that a$$...He may want to fight shane again after pacquaio softens him up...