why don't Berto fans admit Berto duck Mosley??

[Rome-By-Ko]

Just ONE fight can make a difference bruh. I give Floyd credit because Mosley turned back the clock on his last outting against Margo. But since Floyd Shane has NOT turned back the clock. He looked the same against Sergio as he did against Floyd. THAT my friend was confirmation of a downward spiral. And folks were talkin bout how Shane/Floyd is Floyd pickin on a shot Shane. Thats why alot of jokers(Not ya Potna)dont give Floyd alot of credit for beating Shane.

You never know until Shane fights someone who comes to ****(Pac)how shot Mosley really is..From what I took from the Mora fight was Shane's legs are done,he can't jump in with that left hook(which was a thing of beauty)and can't move as fast..But tbh Mora was not a good gauge to see were Mosley is at,tbh a young fresh Mosley would have had trouble trying to catch that rooster..IMO it was a bad style match up,but yes Mosley is past his prime and getting old fast but he was not shot imo in either the May or Mora fights..

But tbh this might be the fight it happens..Hopefully he hangs umm up if he loses..

[Rome-By-Ko]

Mosley wasn't shot, coming off back to back knock outs, I don't consider Mosley shot, is he past his prime yes

I agree with this..

[Chief2ndzOnly!]

LOL So you don't want Berto to fight anybody??I think Angulo is a problem dude,and he get's discounted a lot on this forum but I think he could be dangerous..Zavec(is that really how ya spell his name)looked alright when I seen him on youtube,why won't he leave his Europe??How much money are they talking,he most likely feels he can fight bums and make more money over there anyway..So what do you say Berto does after his fight with(if he wins)Ortiz??

I don't care what Cintron did tbh,he will still be the best fighter Berto would have ever faced..I wanna see Berto pushed,at this point there are not many fights I have a fab three you choose one..

Abregu(my fav fight tbh)
Cintron(my 2end fav fight)
Jones(I'm talking next fight)..

Rome, Angulo is at 154, and cant get back into the US right now. So you want Berto to move up 7lbs AND fight in Mexico????????

If I aint mistaken Zavec has a problem with Universum, and that MIGHT be why he wont leave Europe(But I'm purely speculating on that one). And he(Zavec)should not be allowed to hold the belt hostage in Europe if you ask me. He's an offical belt holder and should be defending against top comp(Just like you all want Andre to do).

So your picks.......

Abregu- Beat by Timmy. How much credit will Andre gets if he outclasses him?

Cintron- Fights(If thats what you wanna call it, ie. Martinez & PWill)at 154 and hasnt fought at WW in what 2-3 years????

Jones- Really is not ready for Berto. He needs atleast a year. He made improvements in the 2nd Karass fight but the 1st Karass fight is still a little too fresh in my head(A fight that had far too many swing rounds for a young beast. What do you think Collazo would've done with Karass?????)to sign off on him facing Berto right now.

So if we have to pick one of the three you listed. I have to go with Carlos Abregu. It'll raise Timmy's stock more than it will raise Andre's. But it'll be a solid fight. We'll here the Freddie Hernandez type ***** all over again if that fight takes place. Mark my words.

[Chief2ndzOnly!]

You never know until Shane fights someone who comes to ****(Pac)how shot Mosley really is..From what I took from the Mora fight was Shane's legs are done,he can't jump in with that left hook(which was a thing of beauty)and can't move as fast..But tbh Mora was not a good gauge to see were Mosley is at,tbh a young fresh Mosley would have had trouble trying to catch that rooster..IMO it was a bad style match up,but yes Mosley is past his prime and getting old fast but he was not shot imo in either the May or Mora fights..

But tbh this might be the fight it happens..Hopefully he hangs umm up if he loses..

IDK Rome homie. You dont sound as confident as you did leading up to the May/Mo fight bruh. What gives??????

[Rome-By-Ko]

IDK Rome homie. You dont sound as confident as you did leading up to the May/Mo fight bruh. What gives??????

Mosley disappointed me in the May fight tbh,I love him and ya know I'ma ride out but Mosley is going in against a beast right now in Pac,just don't wanna see the guy over stay his welcome ya dig..I put a lil money on Mosley and everything I still believe in him,but Pac has different intentions then Floyd in a fight..And we all know Mosley mentality it's going to be a war and end bad for somebody..

With that said War Mosley!!!!

[Rome-By-Ko]

Rome, Angulo is at 154, and cant get back into the US right now. So you want Berto to move up 7lbs AND fight in Mexico????????

If I aint mistaken Zavec has a problem with Universum, and that MIGHT be why he wont leave Europe(But I'm purely speculating on that one). And he(Zavec)should not be allowed to hold the belt hostage in Europe if you ask me. He's an offical belt holder and should be defending against top comp(Just like you all want Andre to do).

So your picks.......

Abregu- Beat by Timmy. How much credit will Andre gets if he outclasses him?

Cintron- Fights(If thats what you wanna call it, ie. Martinez & PWill)at 154 and hasnt fought at WW in what 2-3 years????

Jones- Really is not ready for Berto. He needs atleast a year. He made improvements in the 2nd Karass fight but the 1st Karass fight is still a little too fresh in my head(A fight that had far too many swing rounds for a young beast. What do you think Collazo would've done with Karass?????)to sign off on him facing Berto right now.

So if we have to pick one of the three you listed. I have to go with Carlos Abregu. It'll raise Timmy's stock more than it will raise Andre's. But it'll be a solid fight. We'll here the Freddie Hernandez type ***** all over again if that fight takes place. Mark my words.

Sorry that was a error on my part I meant to say Abregu not Angulo..But yes I would most like to see Abregu and Berto,both have questionable chins both fight hard when they are hurt..Thing is Timmy is a thinking mans fighter,Berto relies more on his god giving talent..I think Berto has far more trouble with Abregu then Timmy B did..

Mike Jones imo is ready right now for Berto,and that's most likely the best fight at WW for him..Jones has a good jab nice boxing ability shows a very good chin and throws a hella of a punch..I would pick him right now to beat Berto in all honesty..

I think Berto beats Abregu but not in the fashion that Bradley did,I also see a exciting fight were Abregu might even get stopped by Berto..But it will bring excitement and be great for Berto's career..Abregu is young hungry and dangerous I see a great fight there..

I think Collazo might have been able to do something with Karass but then again maybe not..Collazo not known as a puncher and Karass none stop pressure would have been fun to watch..But I say Collazo would most likely get the DEC..

[ZealousM15]

Berto is dung! A horrid show-pony!

[ZealousM15]

Down with Berty Berto!

[Chief2ndzOnly!]

Mosley disappointed me in the May fight tbh,I love him and ya know I'ma ride out but Mosley is going in against a beast right now in Pac,just don't wanna see the guy over stay his welcome ya dig..I put a lil money on Mosley and everything I still believe in him,but Pac has different intentions then Floyd in a fight..And we all know Mosley mentality it's going to be a war and end bad for somebody..

With that said War Mosley!!!!

I feel ya bruh. But to me the difference is this:

Floyd Mayweather= Hard to hit, pin point, solid, accurate punches; with a ring IQ that is off the charts.

Manny Pacquiao= Easy to hit, precision combo thrower; with good Ring IQ.

It's a totally different beast fighting May vs. fighting Pac.

[IMDAZED]

I don't think Berto ducked Mosley. The fight not happening was out of his hands. And I seem to recall him calling for that fight months before they began negotiating. Calling and calling. In every interview. Not sure that was a duck. Berto will face the music soon enough and then we'll see if he sinks or swim. Him not fighting better opponents on the way up may hurt him when he does, who knows? But given the fact that he signed to fight Mosley, sought after Cotto and was on the short list of opponents for Pacquiao, I find it hard to question his want.