Who Won Pac-Bradley? Post fight discussion STOP MAKING NEW THREADS ABOUT THIS FIGHT.

[The Big Dunn]

Realistic. If it's a close fight, you think Bradley's getting the nod? Cmon, son.

I can understand the cynicism but a Bradley decision win is better for TR, especially a close one. It creates more lucrative options for Bob, which is what he needs since Cotto and Gamboa are not with TR right now.

Bradley/Manny 2, Jmm/Bradley and Manny/JMM 4 are all in play.

[THE REED]

I can understand the cynicism but a Bradley decision win is better for TR, especially a close one. It creates more lucrative options for Bob, which is what he needs since Cotto and Gamboa are not with TR right now.

Bradley/Manny 2, Jmm/Bradley and Manny/JMM 4 are all in play.

Althought Ive thought about that... Bradley's just never going to be a draw.

Even if he beats Pacquiao he isn't going to carry a ppv card the way Manny can.

Look at Hopkins after he beat Tito.... Zilch.

Pacquiao continuing to win is in the best interest of Top Rank, especially being he's only 33.... if he was 37-38, I'd agree with you.

[JK1700]

I had Marquez winning 9 rounds against Pacquiao and he still didn't get the decision so for him to get the decision Bradley is going to literally have to beat Manny from pillar to post and do it so convincingly that hardly any, if any of the rounds that he wins are close. I just don't see that happening because Bradley doesn't have good defence and I don't think he has the punching power to keep Manny off of him either. So Manny is going to be able to hit him and there is going to be enough close rounds for him to win a decision. Bradley isn't a big enough draw for Arum to want him to win so the judges are going to be against him and he doesn't have the power to get a stoppage. So by all appearences the guy is in a no win situation. You never know though for sure what is going to happen in the sport of boxing though. He might get a decision but I just don't see it with Manny being the much more marketable guy who can generate a lot more money. There's a reason this doesn't feel like a big fight and it's because Tim Bradley just isn't a big name. A lot of casual fans don't know him.

[fabie]

He lost to JMM you think. But you are still ignoring the issue of Pac supposedly not looking good against SSM, Clottey when he absolutley dominated them? He did look good against them, he made them look bad which is the same thing.

Did JMM look good against katsidis? How come that isnt mentioned?

Great points there. I think that most people (most specially here) equate STYLE POINTS/PERFORMANCE to TECHNICAL POINTS/SCORES.

Pac never had the STYLE POINTS against JMM but he did knocked him 4 times and the last fight, in my humble opinion, he won by technical points but lost in style points big time. Against SSM, Pac dominated SSM in every way, just disappointed that Pac weren't able to cut off the ring but hey it's hard to fight a guy like SSM with a long reach while running away. Against Clottey, he was just dominated in every aspect, style points and technical points.

But because of this, people PERCEIVED Pac lesser than what he is.

Mayweather, I think dominated Cotto in points...but lost in STYLE POINTS as well.

I was rooting for Cotto but in my eyes, I really thought Mayweather dominated Cotto. It was funny because my brother and I were really arguing (we both rooted for Cotto) and he thought that I was defecting from the camp.....hehehe but I did tell him that I am just being fair. Not even close.

Mayweather's style has to be appreciated, he is a superior boxer. But not the mauler type.

But back to Pacquiao. JMM outclassed Pacquiao in style points and knows how to fight Pacquiao but, but, but, but. Blame it on his trainer that he eased up on the latter rounds, he could have won. Yes it was close, very close.

About JMM vs KATSIDIS, yes JMM showed him the heart of the lion, but I thought that KATS dominated the early rounds and shows that wicked left hook that floored JMM. In the end, its what matters.

[megadeth]

So what you are doing here is dissing every pro fighter, saying they are tailor made for Pac, and rather than give Pac credit for having the ability to make people to order for him.

Clottey & Margarito are not "every pro fighter"? I give him SOME credit, but the fights that he has taken at WW have been for a reason. Do you think that its a coincidence that many of the fight he has taken, the fighter has looked less than spectacular in the last fight ? Cotto, Margarito, Mosely.

Are you saying JMM is the only boxer in the world can trouble Pac that is essentially what you are saying and if yes, Pac shouldn't be downgraded just cos one man on earth can trouble Pac.?

Where did I say anything like this? I am talking about the fighters that he has fought in the last 3 1/2 years. Of the fighters that he has fought, yes Marquez is the only one with a style that really give Pac trouble. Reading is fundemental! If Pac had fought Mayweather in 2010 he would've had another, but he chose Clottey instead.

Cotto is a nightmare for anyone as is hatton and all the others, but to Pac they are seen as made to order.

The very minute that I heard about the fight with Cotto, I thought it was a mismatch, and NOT in Cotto's favor. Come on, it was a good win regardless, but there is a reason why he has taken the fights that he did at WW. The reason that he fought Cotto, was because he got beat up by Margarito and never looked like the same Cotto after that. Even with that, he STILL wanted a catch weight. Roach even says on video that he didn't feel he was the same after Margarito.

Clottey lost a controversial decision to Cotto, does that then mean he isn't supposed to win rounds against Pac in your world he wins rounds against everyone else does Clottey?

How does Clottey fight? Out of a turtle defense, correct? He blocks punches, then punches when the attacker stops punching. Now, what is Pacman known for? His volume of punches, speed and punching power. Continuously throwing hard punched will have Clottey covering up and getting outworked. That to me equals "tailor made" and I think most knew this before the fight.

Even if your the best, like Pac, he is still human and you expect even the best to lose many rounds when you got 2 pros in the ring. And if he don't lose many rounds, don't say he didn't perform well.

You expect them to lose rounds, but certainly not a lot, when you are fighting the caliber of fighters that he has at WW. If you are fighting fighters that are 3/4 shot like Mosley and can't even cut off the ring to get to him or are troubled by a some movement, and you are supposedly PFP #1, it isn't a stellar performance. If he looked great, why is the consensus that he didn't?

[b0ndsj0ns20]

Considering I gave JMM 8 rounds in their fight he's lost at least 8. Yeah he shut out washed up Mosley, washed up and no wraps Margo, and a never very good Clottey. Good for him. Do I think Bradley will win the fight? No because he can't KO Pac and if the judges decided that a HOF can't win a decision over Pac then Bradley can't.

[The Big Dunn]

Althought Ive thought about that... Bradley's just never going to be a draw.

Even if he beats Pacquiao he isn't going to carry a ppv card the way Manny can.

Look at Hopkins after he beat Tito.... Zilch.

Pacquiao continuing to win is in the best interest of Top Rank, especially being he's only 33.... if he was 37-38, I'd agree with you.

Ask anyone if they ever thought floyd would be a draw pre ODH. WHile I admit, Tim right now has lil charisma, he has a unique platform. He may not be a "draw" but he doesn't need to be. I see him as the ultimate road warrior.

SHould he beat Manny and then his next 3 fights in succession are Floyd, JMM (in mexico) and Khan(in england) he will be in 4 straight 500k+ ppv fights and make about $25-30 mil.

I'll take that!

[Shield Of Red]

Purses for Pacquiao-Bradley card

By Dan Rafael | ESPN.com


LAS VEGAS -- As always, Keith Kizer, the executive director of the Nevada State Athletic Commission, was carrying around a slip of paper at Wednesday's final news conference that listed all of the purses -- which are public record -- for the upcoming fight card.

In this case, it was the rundown of the official contract figures for the Manny Pacquiao-Timothy Bradley Jr. HBO PPV card on Saturday night at the MGM Grand Garden Arena.

Pacquiao's fight night check will be for $6 million, although he is guaranteed $26 million by Top Rank promoter Bob Arum, and can make even more depending on how well the pay-per-view sells.

The reason for the disparity is because the $6 million will be available to Pacquiao immediately, while the remaining $20 million will be paid over an undisclosed number or days or weeks (that he and Arum agreed upon) as the revenue from the fight comes in.

Bradley's purse will be a career-high $5 million and he, too, can make more depending on how well the pay-per-view sells.

Purses for the rest of the fighters on the televised portion of the card: Jorge Arce will make $300,000, Jesus Rojas $25,000, Mike Jones $105,000, Randall Bailey $100,000, Guillermo Rigondeaux $103,000 and Teon Kennedy $70,000.

The other fighters on the card: Mikael Zewski ($8,500), Ryan Grimaldo ($4,500), Ernie Sanchez (TBD; his contract wasn't filed yet), Wilton Hilario ($6,000), Andy Ruiz ($2,500), Tyler Larson ($1,200), Jesse Hart ($4,000) and Manuel Eastman ($1,200).

[THE REED]

Ask anyone if they ever thought floyd would be a draw pre ODH. WHile I admit, Tim right now has lil charisma, he has a unique platform. He may not be a "draw" but he doesn't need to be. I see him as the ultimate road warrior.

SHould he beat Manny and then his next 3 fights in succession are Floyd, JMM (in mexico) and Khan(in england) he will be in 4 straight 500k+ ppv fights and make about $25-30 mil.

I'll take that!

He's signed to Top rank so forget Floyd. He beats Pacquiao his next fight will be Pacquiao again.

Floyd also has the skillset that is as plain as day to see... Bradley does nothing excellent... not a very exciting style either.

Floyd is the exception.

Besides, you're talking about fights where the other guy is the draw not Bradley.

Look at Hopkins resume, he still can't hold a ppv on his own.

[-MAKAVELLI-]

$26mil for less than an hour of work...insane