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  • Phenom
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    #21
    Originally posted by boxingking500
    why??.....

    he didnt really beat JMM in most people eyes didnt really beat a legit light weight champ in Diaz

    Hatton lost at 147 and if he had a belt by any of the other sanctioning bodies he would have been stripped for moving up and losing

    Cotto was at a catchweight

    Margarito was for a vacant belt at a catchweight

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    • Canelo Phresh
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      #22
      Originally posted by boxingking500
      it takes 2 people to sign... so therefore i count it as a legitimate win..

      the other fighter does not have to sign for a catchweight match, but if he does, then it is legitimate in my view
      you dont question it thats on you. i do question these victories i would have liked to see cotto and marg at there best to see a better fight.

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      • [ DUBBZZ ]
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        #23
        Originally posted by boxingking500
        then why do people make such a big deal all the time, dissing his catchweights, which have been part of boxing for a long time, but why do they call him the cathcweight king, he's only had 2.. i mean.. i dont get it
        Because
        • he ain't the cash cow
        • his lifestyle aint flashy.
        • He's not a slick AA.
        • not all roads lead to him.
        • He's not undeafeated and his style aint flawless.
        • And he dont live in a big boy mansion

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        • Rick Grimes
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          #24
          Originally posted by boxingking500
          it takes 2 people to sign... so therefore i count it as a legitimate win..

          the other fighter does not have to sign for a catchweight match, but if he does, then it is legitimate in my view
          Just because you have the power (money) to make someone accept your demands does not make them legit wins. They didn't fight under the division rules they fought under Pacquiao's rules.

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          • boxingking500
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            #25
            Originally posted by Phenom
            he didnt really beat JMM in most people eyes didnt really beat a legit light weight champ in Diaz

            Hatton lost at 147 and if he had a belt by any of the other sanctioning bodies he would have been stripped for moving up and losing

            Cotto was at a catchweight

            Margarito was for a vacant belt at a catchweight

            he didn't really beat JMM in most people eyes....
            really cause i know alot of people who thought pac won

            hatton lost at 147.. and won 2 fights after that at his best weight 140.. and is where pac beat him at his BEST weight.. which is 140 again.....

            Diaz is a champ, pac beat him.. simple as that

            the only 2 questionable things you got on pac is the catchweight fights....

            in which i post this from a guy named GF of boxing.. said in another thread


            "Two. Cotto and Margarito. Both were title fights. Cotto was 146 and Margarito was 151. You can count Oscar because it was Oscar who challenged Manny and he agreed to meet Manny half way. Oscar came down two weight classes and Manny came up two weight classes. And yes they should count because both parties agreed to it. No one force no one hand in this. Okay so Bhop win over Pavlick should be erased. Should Danny Green win over Roy Jones be erased. What about Ray Leonard? It's like this. If the fighters who agree to these stipulations have no problem with it then why should the fans have a problem with it? Obviously they feel like they can make the weight so just ease up relax and enjoy the show instead of trying to tear down somebody's already hall of fame career."

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            • | THE KING |
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              #26
              Originally posted by Deedubbzz07
              Because
              • he ain't the cash cow
              • his lifestyle aint flashy.
              • He's not a slick AA.
              • not all roads lead to him.
              • He's not undeafeated and his style aint flawless.
              • And he dont live in a big boy mansion

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                #27
                Originally posted by | THE KING |
                I like how the camera cuts off right after so it doesnt show him on his hands and knees picking up every bill from the ground.

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                • Phenom
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by boxingking500

                  he didn't really beat JMM in most people eyes.... really cause i know alot of people who thought pac won

                  hatton lost at 147.. and won 2 fights after that at his best weight 140.. and is where pac beat him at his BEST weight.. which is 140 again.....

                  Diaz is a champ, pac beat him.. simple as that

                  the only 2 questionable things you got on pac is the catchweight fights....

                  in which i post this from a guy named GF of boxing.. said in another thread


                  "Two. Cotto and Margarito. Both were title fights. Cotto was 146 and Margarito was 151. You can count Oscar because it was Oscar who challenged Manny and he agreed to meet Manny half way. Oscar came down two weight classes and Manny came up two weight classes. And yes they should count because both parties agreed to it. No one force no one hand in this. Okay so Bhop win over Pavlick should be erased. Should Danny Green win over Roy Jones be erased. What about Ray Leonard? It's like this. If the fighters who agree to these stipulations have no problem with it then why should the fans have a problem with it? Obviously they feel like they can make the weight so just ease up relax and enjoy the show instead of trying to tear down somebody's already hall of fame career."
                  the popular opinion is JMM was roped and Manny never gave him his rematch and spin it how you wanted Diaz was a paper champ the weakest in the division so again Manny went for the easy belt.

                  Hatton would have lost to Holt or Bradley and you know it no credible organization should have ranked Hatton number one that's for sure the ring lost lots of credibility for that stunt. they are no better then the WBC for giving Manny that vacant belt

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                  • Rick Grimes
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Phenom
                    the popular opinion is JMM was roped and Manny never gave him his rematch and spin it how you wanted Diaz was a paper champ the weakest in the division so again Manny went for the easy belt.

                    Hatton would have lost to Holt or Bradley and you know it no credible organization should have ranked Hatton number one that's for sure the ring lost lots of credibility for that stunt. they are no better then the WBC for giving Manny that vacant belt
                    What stunt? Hatton won the Ring championship beating Tszyu, he didn't lose at 140 until Pacquiao.

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                    • boxingking500
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Phenom
                      the popular opinion is JMM was roped and Manny never gave him his rematch and spin it how you wanted Diaz was a paper champ the weakest in the division so again Manny went for the easy belt.

                      Hatton would have lost to Holt or Bradley and you know it no credible organization should have ranked Hatton number one that's for sure the ring lost lots of credibility for that stunt. they are no better then the WBC for giving Manny that vacant belt
                      ok *****...

                      Pac OFFICIALLY won against JMM

                      Diaz was a OFFICIAL champ.. Pac won.......

                      Hatton was linear champ at 140... pac beat him at Hatton's best weight.. gayweather beat him at 147....

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