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  • #51
    The only way Pirog is going to make a name for himself is fighting, winning and then calling out Martinez. Everybody and their uncle calls out the best fighters when they are winning and/or undefeated, so if I were Pirog, I would call out Martinez after ever fight. Once a fighter starts calling someone out over and over, at some point, people are going to start to listen. It sounds like Team Martinez is just bitter about the title being stripped and refuse to give him a chance. But then, at the same time, then why do they keep calling out the winner between Chavez Jr vs. Zbik? I am not saying Pirog deserves a chance just yet, just saying he has the right to call out whomever he pleases...
    Last edited by SluggerFan; 03-27-2011, 10:56 AM.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by SluggerFan View Post
      The only way Pirog is going to make a name for himself is fighting, winning and then calling out Martinez. Everybody and their uncle calls out the best fighters when they are winning and/or undefeated, so if I were Pirog, I would call out Martinez after ever fight. Once a fighter starts calling someone out over and over, at some point, people are going to start to listen. It sounds like Team Martinez is just bitter about the title being stripped and refuse to give him a chance. But then, at the same time, then why do they keep calling out the winner between Chavez Jr vs. Zbik?
      Money, money, money.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by Iceta Lives View Post
        Pirog would get served up, but a fight with Manfredo is still a joke. Get in there and prove this guy is hype.
        I agree. Even though Martinez more than likely beats and possibly stops Pirog, it would still be a credible fight - far more than a Manfredo fight. But it's risks far outweigh the reward. Martinez needs to continue to look sensational and Pirogs style is not so entertaining. He will look great against Manfredo and Pirog is an akward fighter.

        It is a bit amusing however, how the business side of boxing is. I bet their tune would change (a la Arum) if Pirog had a big following and brought in a lot of money.

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        • #54
          Martinez just fought a couple weeks ago anyway. You can't say he is ducking Pirog until the chance to make the fight is there and doesn't happen.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
            Money, money, money.
            If Chavez Jr wins, then yes, Sergio can make some good money IF Chavez fights him. If Zbik wins, there really is no money there since HBO didn't even want that fight to begin with. I think if Sergio doesn't try to get the Sturm fight, then Pirog should. That would get him another title (I think Pirog would beat Sturm) and make the Sergio fight more attractive...

            In the meantime, it looks like we will be stuck with Manfredo. I am not really looking forward to that fight but HBO looks to be on-board since Manfredo is somewhat known from the Contender series. Sergio has earned a softer touch though and as long as he goes for someone tough afterward, I won't hold it against him...

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            • #56
              Pirog did look really good against Jacobs, but when they fought each other, that was really the 1st time both fighters stepped up class.. Jacobs was a promising prospect & Pirog took him out & proved to be better than Jacobs that night & did it in good fashion...But neither fighter had been really tested before that.. Immediately a lot of people jumped on the Pirog band wagon & thought he could take on the world & wipe out the Middleweight division..Now Pirog fought unknown Marciel, who has never fought out of Argentina before the Pirog fight & Marciel didn't show anything special, besides the fact that he took good shots & that he exposed Pirog..Pirog won the fight, but didn't look impressive at all & in the 8th round Marciel got a couple of good shots to the head & body of Pirog & Pirog was in trouble & started backing up & holding threw out the rest of the round..That was Marciel only good round..Martinez would get rid of Pirog faster than what he did to Dzinzuruk!!! I think Martinez should try to unify against Pirog next, cause it would make a WAY better fight than against Manfredo..Martinez will NOT gain ANYTHING by beating Manfredo & would ANNIHILATE Manfredo faster than he did Williams..They ONLY way Manfredo would last is if Martinez takes it easy a carries him around for a few rounds..

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              • #57
                Originally posted by SluggerFan View Post
                If Chavez Jr wins, then yes, Sergio can make some good money IF Chavez fights him. If Zbik wins, there really is no money there since HBO didn't even want that fight to begin with. I think if Sergio doesn't try to get the Sturm fight, then Pirog should. That would get him another title (I think Pirog would beat Sturm) and make the Sergio fight more attractive...

                In the meantime, it looks like we will be stuck with Manfredo. I am not really looking forward to that fight but HBO looks to be on-board since Manfredo is somewhat known from the Contender series. Sergio has earned a softer touch though and as long as he goes for someone tough afterward, I won't hold it against him...
                Your right, but SCUMBAG Arum will NEVER let Chavez jr fight against Martinez!! Unless Martinez signs with Arum(something I don't think will happen anytime soon)Arum knows Martinez will ANNIHILATE Chavez jr...& by looking at how Pirog looked against unknown & nothing special Marciel, Pirog would be a soft opponent for Martinez & at the same time a way better fight than Manfredo.. Against Manfredo I don't think it won't be even a fight, but more like a glorified sparring session!! & it will last as long as Martinez wants it to last..
                Last edited by Tomasio; 03-27-2011, 01:31 PM.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by drool View Post
                  You do know that this is only coming from the *******s and *****s on this forum, right?
                  He's universally regarded #3 for taking out top opposition.
                  Floyd fans aren't saying Martinez is ducking anyone. That is strictly coming from Pac fans. How could any TRUE BOXING FAN disrespect a fighter who is demolishing his competition and tries his best to fight the best? Doesn't matter which fans are doing and saying it but it is weak at best to try to trash a fighter that is willing to put it out there and give his best. Sergio Martinez proved his worth in the sport. If anything other fighters are ducking him. How could ANYONE say a fighter of Sergio Martinez calliber is ducking an up and comer like Pirog? What sense does that make? Martinez is putting good fighters out. Off of one win and a not so impressive fight. I'm supposed to believe that this guy Pirog has Sergio Martinez on the run? It is indeed laughable like someone stated prior on this thread. Pac fans are still bitter that Sergio $h!tting on Pac. I would love to see Sergio and Floyd fight but I don't expect Floyd to take that fight because it's too risky for him at this point of his career but I'm not trying to $h!t on Martinez for getting at the big money fighters calling themselves the best. Atleast Sergio is continually trying to prove it.

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                  • #59
                    Pirog has to figjt on hbo and ko ppl to get the martinez fight but pirog is out of his league fight jacobs again ko him again on hbo and try to fight andy lee

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by Tomasio View Post
                      Your right, but SCUMBAG Arum will NEVER let Chavez jr fight against Martinez!! Unless Martinez signs with Arum(something I don't think will happen anytime soon)Arum knows Martinez will ANNIHILATE Chavez jr...& by looking at how Pirog looked against unknown & nothing special Marciel, Pirog would be a soft opponent for Martinez & at the same time a way better fight than Manfredo.. Against Manfredo I don't think it won't be even a fight, but more like a glorified sparring session!! & it will last as long as Martinez wants it to last..
                      I thought Sergio Martinez as the emeritus champ could force any guy to fight at that weight class or get stripped of their title(s)?.

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