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  • #31
    Originally posted by prsi View Post
    Are you Serious or on drugs???
    You put Margarito with Mayorga and it won't even go on PPV!!!!

    True that the great Mexican-Puertorican rivarly, helped to sell the 500k that Cotto-Margarito better than the other fights of Cotto you mentioned but to say it was because of Margarito's fans.... GTFOH!!!!

    Did you forget that even after selling 500k when fighting Cotto, Margarito was on the pick of his popularity, and went a got a really well non name in Boxing in Mosley and that fight was not even worthy of being on PPV!!!!

    Are you Crazy?????
    He also forgets Margarito did 15K in his comeback fight.

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    • #32
      Just shows you whats important to Bob... not about making great fights.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by AnimalisticMeth View Post
        Same fans who got the Margarito-Garcia fight only 15K after the dude being gone over a year? Hahahaha Cotto has never done that low of numbers even when he was headlining Top Rank PPV. The lowest he has ever done is 60K early in his career. Cotto has done 90k vs Malignaggi, 250K vs Judah, 400K vs Mosley, 250K vs Mayorga, 500K vs the Margarito who could only get 15K on his own, 1.25 million vs Pacquiao. Tell me Margarito PPV numbers outside of his Cotto and Pacquiao fights?
        Ur off bro. Cotto-Judah was 180,000 buys and Cotto-Mosley was340,000. Marfarito-Garcia wasn't HBO or Showtime ppv. That was a generic Latin Fury. Cotto vs Mosley and Judahh were HBO ppv. Bad comparison. You know that margaritos fans bought at least half the ppv buys vs Cotto. People weren't going to waste money on the Garcia tune up especially right after he was caught trying to cheat vs Mosley.

        Remember Cotto-Clottey and Cotto-Foreman weren't even ppv. Arum didn't even want this fight to be popv but the networks wouldn't buy it. The 1st Margarito-Cotto did a little more than 450,000 buys which is really good. The best in many years that didn't involve Floyd, Manny or Oscar. I think the rematch will drive more Ricans and Mexicans to buy it and I could see it doing 600,000-700,000 buys especially with a solid undercard with Cntron, Barrera and Maybe Rios in fights.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by ThePrince View Post


          Shouldn't even bother but- Go ahead and waste both of our time... prove it.
          Marquez-Diaz 2 did 250k. I remember reading Schaefer was thrilled cuz they needed 200k to. Break even. They had about 9000 in attendance which besides May-Mosley was the best attended fight of 2010 or 2011 which is sad.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by AnimalisticMeth View Post
            Oscar De La Hoya did 350K vs Yori Boy Campas in 2003 after dominating Fernando Vargas and 240K vs Wilfredo Rivera just to give two examples of some of De La Hoya's low PPV numbers. Is he a fraud as a draw? Keep in mind those two fights happen on Oscar's best time. 250 is great and not too many can do that on boxing today.
            250k is not great man..great is over 1 mill..250 is solid..far from great..manny got 700k with clottey

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            • #36
              Originally posted by LarryX2011 View Post
              damn thought cotto's drawing power was better then 250k
              There's major reasons it did 250k. First off, the fight was on SHO. No matter how you dice it SHO doesn't have even close to the subscribers as HBO. Yes, I know you don't have to have SHO to get it but a lot of people didn't know this fight was happening because they don't have it. Secondly, HBO put on a fight with one of the best fighters in the world on it at no charge. Third, it was looked at as a one sided fighter.

              Had this fight been a HBO PPV without SHO showing anything I bet it would of done 400,000 buys.

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              • #37
                Whoever said Marquez/Diaz II did 250k buys is full of **** and there wasn't 7,000 people in attendance I want a link as proof stating it means nothing. As far as anyone calling this a "failure..." From the Gate and PPV buys (not counting advertising or food/beer sales, this fight made $13 million. Since when the hell is making 13 million dollars for anyone a bad thing? Showtime is going to get like half of that which leaves about 6.5 million to spread between Cotto and the promoters, Cotto was guaranteed 1 million for this fight which means he probably walked away from anywhere with 3-5 million not even accounting for advertising on his pants or anything like that.

                I be all of us on here would retire if we were able to pull that off, and this was simply looked at upon a tune-up. Anyone actually looking at this as a fair comparison to a Tito/DLH vs Mayorga is a dumbass as well. Both of those fights were over 4 years ago and Mayorgas drawing power became less and less with each loss no matter how entertaining he was. But yea, I have to agree $13 million dollars off of a PPV is a total failure.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by killakali View Post
                  That's weak 250,000 ppvs. Nothing like Tito did. Goes to show u the Ricans don't support Cotto like Tito. Besides the Pacquaio fight, Cotto's only decent ppv numbers was vs Margarito and those were mostly Margarito fans buying the fight. That fight did almost 500,000 ppv buys. The rematch will do that many because of Margarito fans. Cotto-Mayorga, Cotto-Mosley, Cotto-Judah all did weak ppv numbers.
                  exactly,,nobody in their right mind would think that cotto would bring in a lot of ppv if he fights margarito,no way,margarito is the one who will bring in the buys,the fans,everybody thought it wouldn't do good against pacquiao,he did great,more than pac did against clottey,marg brings fans,arum is thinking about putting barrera on undercard,thats right,put in another mexican to help with the ppv,thats the way to go if you want to sell fights

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by lopez36 View Post
                    exactly,,nobody in their right mind would think that cotto would bring in a lot of ppv if he fights margarito,no way,margarito is the one who will bring in the buys,the fans,everybody thought it wouldn't do good against pacquiao,he did great,more than pac did against clottey,marg brings fans,arum is thinking about putting barrera on undercard,thats right,put in another mexican to help with the ppv,thats the way to go if you want to sell fights
                    Yeah, you are on crack or don't know the sport. Cotto is a much bigger name than Margarito. Look at Cottos PPV history and Margaritos history. Has Margarito even been on PPV, oh yeah, he has when he did 15,000 buys for his comeback and an awful amount of buys on ESPNs last PPV because it did so poorly. Cotto also did more buys against Pac than Margarito did as well. Not to mention that Cotto/Mosley was PPV, while Margarito/Mosley was not and the other countless amount of PPVs Cottos been on. Cotto has always been a much bigger name than Margarito and the main reason why this fight only did 250k was because it wasn't on HBO and HBO had another fight on at the same time. You really have some imaginary lover for the cheater.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by lopez36 View Post
                      You've got a lot of nerve coming back to this thread after thoroughly embarrassing yourself... where's the ****ing proof?

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