Comments Thread For: Will Heavyweight Boxing Stop Sucking in 2011?

[TaurusJ27]

The fight with Haye really needs a lot of media attention even though it is overseas for the sake of the heavyweight division.

[Marchegiano]

So Albert Sosnowski is fat?



How about Shannon Briggs?





This is the part where someone tells me that Boxing isn't a Bodybuilding contest.

Oh wow you really bombarded me with counter-points. We both know you don't need a list of fat fighters, and we both know two names doesn't negate the list of "highly skilled" fat ****ers.

Shannon Briggs was fat yes. See how he's bigger in the middle than he used to be? That's fat don't give me the look at his muscles bull**** Frank Mir has a six pack with love handles. If Mir can manage a middle that has abs and is fat so can Briggs. I dunno how else you explain the added girth of the cannon's middle.

Boxing isn't a bodybuilding contest? Who said it was? I didn't say I want to see well defined rectus capitis lateralis on the fighters I said they're too fat. There is no excuse for being fat. It's physical evidence that your lazy. I don't like seeing said evidence on my challengers and certainly don't like the idea of a lazy champ. It seems to me if say, Arreola, put in enough time at the gym to be the best he can, he'd be in better shape. He put in sub par training effort and gets sub par results.

[cupocity303]

Oh wow you really bombarded me with counter-points. We both know you don't need a list of fat fighters, and we both know two names doesn't negate the list of "highly skilled" fat ****ers.

Shannon Briggs was fat yes. See how he's bigger in the middle than he used to be? That's fat don't give me the look at his muscles bull**** Frank Mir has a six pack with love handles. If Mir can manage a middle that has abs and is fat so can Briggs. I dunno how else you explain the added girth of the cannon's middle.

Boxing isn't a bodybuilding contest? Who said it was? I didn't say I want to see well defined rectus capitis lateralis on the fighters I said they're too fat. There is no excuse for being fat. It's physical evidence that your lazy. I don't like seeing said evidence on my challengers and certainly don't like the idea of a lazy champ. It seems to me if say, Arreola, put in enough time at the gym to be the best he can, he'd be in better shape. He put in sub par training effort and gets sub par results.

You're all over the place. What is your point exactly?

I took Sosnowksi's name out of the hat just for a aesthetic example. Juan Diaz is a chubby looking Lightweight - yet he has stamina for days, known as a workrate bodypuncher.

If you wanna talk about skills, Eddie Chambers (like Juan Diaz mentioned) who was never known for being a ripped guy, came in at a pretty decent low weight against WLad Klitschko. That means he trained. Undersized? Yes but a pretty good defense that hasn't been cracked before, and he managed to beat a 6'7 guy and a Former Title Holder in Sam Peter before that. To me Chambers has got the most talent/abilities of all Wlad's opponents and he trained, looking at all the facts.

So is the Klitschko's resume full of world beaters? No, but still pretty good wins nonetheless.

[Pirao]

Hey now, I'm a fan of Wlad if you've noticed my posts. I admire great technical fighters who are smart. Wlad is that.

Bernard Hopkins may be the opposite of a Wlad KLitschko (Black, different background) but I admire him for the same reasons. Great fighter - always finds a way not to get his ass kicked by anybody, AND I MEAN ANYBODY.

If he doesn't win, he at least gives them a run for his money. You can't knock that.

Knock what? I'm pointing at the hypocrisy of writers, that point out at the HW division being weak, yet the LHW division is all fine and dandy, even though their top guy there lost to a 45 year old MW, imagine if Wlad lost to Evander Holyfield, I wonder why the double standards?

The title of this thread is misleading BTW, it should be "will americans stop crying about HW boxing in 2011?"

[Marchegiano]

You're all over the place. What is your point exactly?

I took Sosnowksi's name out of the hat just for a aesthetic example. Juan Diaz is a chubby looking Lightweight - yet he has stamina for days, known as a workrate bodypuncher.

If you wanna talk about skills, Eddie Chambers (like Juan Diaz mentioned) who was never known for being a ripped guy, came in at a pretty decent low weight against WLad Klitschko. That means he trained. Undersized? Yes but a pretty good defense that hasn't been cracked before, and he managed to beat a 6'7 guy and a Former Title Holder in Sam Peter before that. To me Chambers has got the most talent/abilities of all Wlad's opponents and he trained, looking at all the facts.

So is the Klitschko's resume full of world beaters? No, but still pretty good wins nonetheless.

My point hasn't changed. I don't like all the fat HW. Like I said before it's evidence that you don't work as hard as you could. Lazy. I didn't say they were talentless I said lazy. The talent is all they have actually. You can't say Chambers is winning fights due to his incredible conditioning. So if talent get him this far how good could he be if he was talented and put in hard work? How much better would Wlad be if his contenders were talented and put in hard work? Oh yeah some fatties seem to go for ever, but that doesn't negate their fat. They have extra weight to move with. extra body to protect, and the sagging evidence of laziness. Their ability to work with it is commendable, but their inability to rid themselves of it is shameful.

I'm only "all over the place" because I respond to what you write. to put everything bluntly in my last post:

Albert looked great I agree, but Shannon looked like a fat old version of himself. Second I didn't bring up body building you did. You've got all the time you need to reread until you understand ( not a crack at you. I'm a horrid writer I know this. I just don't feel me reposting my points will help convey them any better than you rereading)

[crold1]

Answering my own column question...

...not until, at least, July.