Why Do People Act Like Martinez Win Over Dzinziruk Was A Big Deal?

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  • PR Boxer
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    #91
    Originally posted by Beater_of_ass
    I don't have a problem with who he fought as I've never seen a company turn around so badly as HBO and their boxing department. Its the fact that I don't think Sergio has even faced a top 10 P4P, yet he's ranked 2 or 3 already thats the biggest issue, not the fact that he beat up an unknown.
    Paul Williams was ranked #3 when they fought.

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    • Beater_of_ass
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      #92
      Originally posted by PR Boxer
      Paul Williams was ranked #3 when they fought.
      In one poll, which happened to be Yahoo's poll. He wasn't even ranked on just about any other poll, and if he was he was 9 or 10 MAYBE. I remember making a thread on this even before the Sergio fight (or it might have been after the first one) but I was in shock when I saw this. Still, that being said by beating 1 MAYBE P4P guy that earns you number 2?

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        #93
        Originally posted by Beater_of_ass
        In one poll, which happened to be Yahoo's poll. He wasn't even ranked on just about any other poll, and if he was he was 9 or 10 MAYBE. I remember making a thread on this even before the Sergio fight (or it might have been after the first one) but I was in shock when I saw this. Still, that being said by beating 1 MAYBE P4P guy that earns you number 2?
        Williams was ranked #3 by Ring Magazine and ESPN, he also beat Pavlik who was the recognized Middleweight Champion of the World.

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          #94
          Originally posted by PR Boxer
          Williams was ranked #3 by Ring Magazine and ESPN, he also beat Pavlik who was the recognized Middleweight Champion of the World.
          Williams was never ranked that high by the Ring.

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            #95
            Originally posted by Mr. Fantastic
            Williams was never ranked that high by the Ring.
            Right my bad he was ranked #5

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              #96
              Cause it was him knocking someone out a gain doing it I mean it's not like that dude was 147. 154 and 160 aren't that far apart and considering Martinez was there like what a year and a half ago it don't really matter he beat a solid dude

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                #97
                Originally posted by MRBOOMER
                Cause it was him knocking someone out a gain doing it I mean it's not like that dude was 147. 154 and 160 aren't that far apart and considering Martinez was there like what a year and a half ago it don't really matter he beat a solid dude
                That win is comparable to Pac beating Jan Zaveck or Senchenko, only they're atleast in his division. Pac would get slaughtered for fighting an unproven euro level fighter, with other fights out there for him. Martinez gets nothing but praise and even called the true p4p #1 with that win, double standards are laughable.

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by Kevin Malone
                  Who should he have faced instead? Pirog whose beat nobody?

                  Dzinziruk has never been down, is a solid fighter (and did win a couple rounds against Martinez) and did what he could.

                  I don't know what people want.
                  people want the middleweight champ to fight a middleweight and not a superwelterweight... very simple...

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                    #99
                    Sergei is actually a decent fighter and I won't put him in a class with yuri foreman at all .. he's way better than foreman. .. the sergei that martinez just fought would have absolutely beaten mayorga aand would have ko'd foreman easily .people forget he cut martinez in that 7th rd and was turning it up so don't go acting like this was a win over a bum.. dzinzurik would have given plenty 154lbers and 160lbers problems

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                      #100
                      Originally posted by Beater_of_ass
                      In one poll, which happened to be Yahoo's poll. He wasn't even ranked on just about any other poll, and if he was he was 9 or 10 MAYBE. I remember making a thread on this even before the Sergio fight (or it might have been after the first one) but I was in shock when I saw this. Still, that being said by beating 1 MAYBE P4P guy that earns you number 2?
                      If this is the case then who has donaire beaten that's top ten p4p to earn him a 4 or 5 p4p ranking according to RING ?

                      Certainly not darchynian or montiel right ?

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