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  • Evil Abed
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    #41
    Originally posted by Cuauhtémoc1502
    I thought he looked good vs Pac considering he was fighting someone 10x faster than him.

    Pac moves in and out for 12 rounds like no other, Cotto can't do that.

    Stewart said it the best, the only way Cotto beats Marg is if he pushes him backwards, you really think he can do that?
    I was referring to his fight right after the Mosley fight.

    Roberto Garcia.

    I thought he looked rusty and i didn't like his attempt to box instead of pressuring.

    If Cotto uses his jab effectively and pushes with the right hand a little harder he might be able to back up Margo at times.

    He needs to reduce his movement to only when he needs to move.

    Stay in the center of the ring and don't dash off after a combo. Ether clinch or turn Margo.

    I'm assuming this is the same Margo that fought Cotto.

    that's a big assumption considering all the damage hes taken since the first fight.

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    • SluggerFan
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      #42
      Originally posted by ThePhantom5
      I was referring to his fight right after the Mosley fight.

      Roberto Garcia.

      I thought he looked rusty and i didn't like his attempt to box instead of pressuring.

      If Cotto uses his jab effectively and pushes with the right hand a little harder he might be able to back up Margo at times.

      He needs to reduce his movement to only when he needs to move.

      Stay in the center of the ring and don't dash off after a combo. Ether clinch or turn Margo.

      I'm assuming this is the same Margo that fought Cotto.

      that's a big assumption considering all the damage hes taken since the first fight.
      The problem is even if Cotto keeps turning Margarito, what's Cotto going to do then when Margarito adjusts. I think Cotto definitely has to hit him, turn, hit him again, turn and then move. Otherwise Cotto will nail him a few times but after he is finished, he will be right there to hit.

      If the same Margarito shows up that fought Cotto the first time, I don't see any way Cotto can win. I think Arum knows this and also knows Margarito isn't the same fighter anymore, which is why he kept him out of the ring and has him going straight back to Cotto without and interim fight. If Marg is damaged goods (which I think he is), Cotto will win. If Margarito still is at his prime like when they first thought, I don't think Cotto can go 12 rounds. Also, with the bad publicity Margarito got for the hand wraps, Arum knows it will be easier to get Cotto big money fights than it will be for Margarito...
      Last edited by SluggerFan; 03-15-2011, 09:03 PM.

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      • Roja's480
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        #43
        i dont agree with margs cotto still the same he couldnt beat mayorga early he is losing his touch no point of making a rematch cuz i see margs stoping cotto earlier

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        • ThePunchingBag
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          #44
          Oh man...

          Margarito really can't afford to lose this one.

          If he does, the plaster rumors will be confirmed in the minds of most of the public.

          Talk about fighting with your back to the wall......

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          • jjbj2
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            #45
            More Info

            http://boxingchannel.com/bob-arum-an...ill-fight-next

            Bob Arum talking about the Margarito vs Cotto II with dates already being discussed.

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            • figzuki
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              #46
              Originally posted by (ROY)
              i dont agree with margs cotto still the same he couldnt beat mayorga early he is losing his touch no point of making a rematch cuz i see margs stoping cotto earlier
              pure hater alert!!!! hey *******, thats comin from the mouth of a proffessional that was ringside, and has fought him before, who are u????

              who has beaten Mayorga early? Oscar completely outclassed him and that took him 6 rounds to get him out!!! and u can't compare DLH to Cotto, too different levels there....

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              • Beater_of_ass
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                #47
                Cotto lost the first fight because of his mistakes, not because Margs was such a good fighter. Shane showed that Marg doesn't know how to fight when he gets clinched, and he also showed that he can be turned very easily like Manny showed. All Marg did was follow Manny into a corner, Manny would land a combo, get away and then come back at Marg in the corner. Cotto will win this fight the way Shane/Manny did, a combination of both if you will. He'll clinch when he gets trapped in a corner because he isn't going to be nearly as slick as Manny. The fact of the matter is Cotto has gotten better tecnically to make up for what he's lost since his prime, Margarito is actually losing ANYTHING he has that made him win the first fight. Power is gone (especially without wraps) even though he might not be KO'd, his face simply can't handle punches anymore, and more than anything he doesn't throw 100+ punches a round. Yet, he still has horrific defense and can't take a body shot, I got Cotto this time around.

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                • BorderPatrol
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Beater_of_ass
                  Cotto lost the first fight because of his mistakes, not because Margs was such a good fighter. Shane showed that Marg doesn't know how to fight when he gets clinched, and he also showed that he can be turned very easily like Manny showed. All Marg did was follow Manny into a corner, Manny would land a combo, get away and then come back at Marg in the corner. Cotto will win this fight the way Shane/Manny did, a combination of both if you will. He'll clinch when he gets trapped in a corner because he isn't going to be nearly as slick as Manny. The fact of the matter is Cotto has gotten better tecnically to make up for what he's lost since his prime, Margarito is actually losing ANYTHING he has that made him win the first fight. Power is gone (especially without wraps) even though he might not be KO'd, his face simply can't handle punches anymore, and more than anything he doesn't throw 100+ punches a round. Yet, he still has horrific defense and can't take a body shot, I got Cotto this time around.
                  Excellent analysis.

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                  • Hallaqsillaq
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by disolly
                    Its not the stamina, its the combination of that, his chin, and his relentlessness. in their fight cotto would throw very hard power punches, typically a punch will weaken a fighter, unfortunately they did nothing to him and sometimes it even appeared as if they gave him a bolt of energy.
                    that being said, if cotto had stayed in the middle of the ring more and not get caught on the ropes, then he could have pulled out the decision. didnt go to the body at all either.
                    I don't think Cotto hit Tony full force much at all in their first fight. He was backed up by Tony constantly, greatly diminishing the power in his shots. They looked awesome and flashy but packed considerably less wallop than if he stood his ground and circled.

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                    • Hallaqsillaq
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by (ROY)
                      i dont agree with margs cotto still the same he couldnt beat mayorga early he is losing his touch no point of making a rematch cuz i see margs stoping cotto earlier
                      Watch the fight again. Watch it very closely and pay attention to Cotto's body language and expressions.

                      I suspect Cotto carried Mayorga after the first half and was putting in rounds. Not to detract from a Mayorga than came in decently good condition (though still far over the hill).... I knew with the ease he put together that combo in the 12th that he'd been holding back (cautious too)... He did it for two purposes, to punish Mayo and to practice conserving stamina against a wild opponent.

                      Just my opinion though...

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