Wladimir Klitschko - What is wrong with this guy?

[P4P Opinion]

I beg to differ on this one. You didn't watch quite a few Wlad fights if you think he rarely throws power shots. Did you watch Wlad Brewster 1&2? What about Wlad Byrd 1&2 or Wlad Chambers? He threw power shots.

He tore Sam Peter a new one for most of both fights.

That answer refers to the current Wladimir Klitschko we have and not the Wladimir Klitschko that fought Byrd and Brewster twice. With regards to the Chambers fight, I have to accept that he threw a lot more power shots that normal, but I believe this was the case because he didn't respect the power of Chambers. Wladimir fights cautiously without exposing himself via throwing power shots because he fears taking flush punches (or Emmanuel Steward fears him taking flush punches), but Wladimir can fight with confidence against a guy like Chambers who can't really punch.

[Boxing Scene]

That answer refers to the current Wladimir Klitschko we have and not the Wladimir Klitschko that fought Byrd and Brewster twice. With regards to the Chambers fight, I have to accept that he threw a lot more power shots that normal, but I believe this was the case because he didn't respect the power of Chambers. Wladimir fights cautiously without exposing himself via throwing power shots because he fears taking flush punches (or Emmanuel Steward fears him taking flush punches), but Wladimir can fight with confidence against a guy like Chambers who can't really punch.

Then you didn't watch Wlad/Peter 2. That is the current Wlad and he lit up Sam Peter who punches pretty damn hard.

[ChopperRead]

So, what you're saying is that of all the heavyweight fighters in history with precisely 58 fights or more, no one has less unavenged losses than Wladimir Klitschko? So ****ing what?. Lennox Lewis had no unavenged losses or draws, but I suppose he didn't fight 58 times or more! Congratulations on finding an obscure record Wladimir can hold. My point was that Wladimir has three stoppage losses on his record, only one of which he has avenged, in a particularly weak era for the heavyweight division. Puritty was a bum, Sanders was a rent-a-slugger who Wladimir needed Vitali to beat and Brewster was a reasonable fighter but no World-beater.As I already mentioned, I don't doubt it. The Ring have to rank ten opponents, even in an era as weak as this.

So what?

McCall was/is literally a crackhead and Rahman a fat journeyman. Both knocked Lewis out COLD, something that has never happened to Wladimir.

And surely you don't count McCall's drug-induced nervous breakdown in the Lewis rematch as Lewis "avenging" the earlier loss! All Lewis had to do was stand and watch McCall melt down.

Brewster was as good or better than Rahman until the fight with Liakhovich destroyed him. Sanders could punch as hard as anyone. Purritty was no great shakes, I'll give you that one.

[ChopperRead]

Then you didn't watch Wlad/Peter 2. That is the current Wlad and he lit up Sam Peter who punches pretty damn hard.

Finished him off with some nice uppercuts, a very promising development.

[T.Horton]

As does your username.


What you call "bums" were the highest RING-rated opponents available.


Do you have any proof that this era is any worse than, say, Tyson's era?


There is no other world champ in the history of boxing with that amount of real heavyweight fights AND LESS unavenged losses than Wladimir Klitschko (and Brian Nielsen). His 2 unavenged losses are a hallmark attribute.


What you call bums were the highest RING-rated opponents.

and what is your definition of a bum?

[Joeyzagz]

Wlad is the 2000's version of Larry Holmes. The people who hated Holmes style probably hate Wlad as well. Not only are their styles similar but their era's are eerily sh.tty as well.

Holmes had his toughest fights at the tail-end of a superior era, and began to dominate when all those old guys died off.

He then was KTFO by a young exciting HW. I hope WLad's story ends the same way.

[Box Up!]

Then you didn't watch Wlad/Peter 2. That is the current Wlad and he lit up Sam Peter who punches pretty damn hard.

Samuel Peter could never have won that fight !

Come on boxing scene, i know you like Wlad, but that is not a convincing argument.

Break it down;

In the first fight Wlad was put on the seat of pants. This by a man with no speed, no footwork, no reach and no athleticism. Peter only has power. Wlad did, however, impress by getting up and getting the job done, I would never deny him that.


The second fight, Wlad simply avoided the silly mistakes he made in the first fight. In doing so he won an easy fight and indeed dominated completely – as he absolutely should have.

How on earth is he going to cope with Haye’s speed and power? I just don’t see it happening. One slip of the jab by Haye and its lights out.

We seem to disagree heavily on this, but I’m sure we both can agree that it’s a mouth watering prospect in waiting,

Haye will win within 4rds. He’ll throw very little until he spots his chance then ****. Over.

[P4P Opinion]

Then you didn't watch Wlad/Peter 2. That is the current Wlad and he lit up Sam Peter who punches pretty damn hard.

If you read my initial post you'll note that I didn't say he doesn't throw power punches, I said he only throws power punches when an opponent is showing signs of fatigue, hurting or is wide open (or lacking power like Eddie Chambers). With all respect to Sam Peter, he wings his punches in at times and leaves himself open to shots. Wladimir is good at taking advantage when a fighter is open. Later on in that fight with his confidence up and Peter tiring, Wladimir had it his own way entirely, but in the opening part of the fight he was cautious as usual except when Peter opened the door for him.

[T.Horton]

Then you didn't watch Wlad/Peter 2. That is the current Wlad and he lit up Sam Peter who punches pretty damn hard.

sam peter was well shot in that second fight.

[T.Horton]

So what?

McCall was/is literally a crackhead and Rahman a fat journeyman. Both knocked Lewis out COLD, something that has never happened to Wladimir.

And surely you don't count McCall's drug-induced nervous breakdown in the Lewis rematch as Lewis "avenging" the earlier loss! All Lewis had to do was stand and watch McCall melt down.

Brewster was as good or better than Rahman until the fight with Liakhovich destroyed him. Sanders could punch as hard as anyone. Purritty was no great shakes, I'll give you that one.

Lewis was knocked out cold twice? Do you really believe this? lol