Wladimir Klitschko - What is wrong with this guy?

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  • hweightblogger
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    Wladimir Klitschko - What is wrong with this guy?

    Do you find Wladimir Klitschko's surgical dissection of opponents boring?

    Would you prefer a storming/brawling type approach like Mike Tyson?

    Would you prefer Wladimir Klitschko to use more dirty tactics (e.g. hold the arms of opponents, pushing the head down) like Cassius Clay/Muhammad Ali?

    Is Wlad too athletic and do you prefer a more chubby physique like Larry Holmes or Joe Frazier?

    What exactly is wrong with Wladimir Klitschko?
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    Wlad's style rather sucks and I am from the USA
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    Wlad's style rather sucks and I am from the UK
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    Wlad's style rather sucks and I am from an East-European/ex-Soviet country
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    Wlad's style rather sucks and I am neither from the USA/UK/East-European/ex-Soviet country
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    I am rather pleased with Wlad's style and I am from the USA
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    I am rather pleased with Wlad's style and I am from the UK
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    I am rather pleased with Wlad's style and I am from an East-European/ex-Soviet country
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    I am rather pleased with Wlad's style and I am not from the USA/UK/East-European/ex-Soviet country
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    Your poll sucks ****.

    I admire Wladimir Klitschko as a fighter, as an athlete and as a man, but there are many things wrong with him:

    * Wladimir is cautious to the point of tedium, rarely throwing a power punch unless an opponent is showing signs of fatigue, hurting or wide open.

    * Wladimir spoils when an opponent manages to breach his reach advantage, holding instantly and not relenting.

    * While Wladimir has faced the best opponents of his generation (barring his brother of course), he has failed to truly establish himself as a great by beating a fellow great. Now this isn't Wladimir's fault, but it's hard to truly love a fighter who has feasted on bums for years. Despite fighting in a pitifully weak heavyweight period, Wladimir has also managed to be stopped on three occasions, only avenging one of them.

    I admire the technical and tactical way he fights, but I can't get excited about it. What he does makes sense, but it doesn't impress. As for the lack of quality opponents on his resume - well, he can't really change that, but it might be better for Wladimir if Vitali loses or retires in the near future so he doesn't have to split the best of a bad bunch 50/50.

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      Originally posted by P4P Opinion
      Your poll sucks ****.
      As does your username.

      Originally posted by P4P Opinion
      it's hard to truly love a fighter who has feasted on bums for years.
      What you call "bums" were the highest RING-rated opponents available.

      Originally posted by P4P Opinion
      Despite fighting in a pitifully weak heavyweight period
      Do you have any proof that this era is any worse than, say, Tyson's era?

      Originally posted by P4P Opinion
      Wladimir has also managed to be stopped on three occasions, only avenging one of them.
      There is no other world champ in the history of boxing with that amount of real heavyweight fights AND LESS unavenged losses than Wladimir Klitschko (and Brian Nielsen). His 2 unavenged losses are a hallmark attribute.

      Originally posted by P4P Opinion
      I admire the technical and tactical way he fights, but I can't get excited about it. What he does makes sense, but it doesn't impress. As for the lack of quality opponents on his resume
      What you call bums were the highest RING-rated opponents.

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        I have never understood whats so terribly exciting about Mike Tyson killing someone in 30 seconds. And Fat Yanks happily dished out $50 for it. They really do have short attention spans.

        I like a systematic beating just as much, if not more. Although Wlad definitely could put his foot on the gas a bit more sometimes.

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          Originally posted by hweightblogger
          Do you find Wladimir Klitschko's surgical dissection of opponents boring?

          Would you prefer a storming/brawling type approach like Mike Tyson?

          Would you prefer Wladimir Klitschko to use more dirty tactics (e.g. hold the arms of opponents, pushing the head down) like Cassius Clay/Muhammad Ali?

          Is Wlad too athletic and do you prefer a more chubby physique like Larry Holmes or Joe Frazier?

          What exactly is wrong with Wladimir Klitschko?
          For some reason, the last question seems hilarious

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          • P4P Opinion
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            Originally posted by hweightblogger
            What you call "bums" were the highest RING-rated opponents available.
            I don't doubt that. They are fighters that I believe would have stood little chance in other heavyweight eras - a belief I have made based on technical ability, physical shape and standard of resume.

            Originally posted by hweightblogger
            Do you have any proof that this era is any worse than, say, Tyson's era?
            First of all, what on Earth has this got to do with Tyson? I would never hold up Tyson's reign to be the benchmark standard. To answer your question, no I do not have proof because it is impossible to provide proof, as what we are discussing is subjective, not objective. I have come to the conclusion that this heavyweight era is a weak one based on the poor technical and physical standard set by today's contenders.

            Originally posted by hweightblogger
            There is no other world champ in the history of boxing with that amount of real heavyweight fights AND LESS unavenged losses than Wladimir Klitschko (and Brian Nielsen). His 2 unavenged losses are a hallmark attribute.
            So, what you're saying is that of all the heavyweight fighters in history with precisely 58 fights or more, no one has less unavenged losses than Wladimir Klitschko? So ****ing what?. Lennox Lewis had no unavenged losses or draws, but I suppose he didn't fight 58 times or more! Congratulations on finding an obscure record Wladimir can hold. My point was that Wladimir has three stoppage losses on his record, only one of which he has avenged, in a particularly weak era for the heavyweight division. Puritty was a bum, Sanders was a rent-a-slugger who Wladimir needed Vitali to beat and Brewster was a reasonable fighter but no World-beater.

            Originally posted by hweightblogger
            What you call bums were the highest RING-rated opponents.
            As I already mentioned, I don't doubt it. The Ring have to rank ten opponents, even in an era as weak as this.
            Last edited by P4P Opinion; 03-15-2011, 11:53 AM.

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              #7
              where is western-europe on the list?

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                #8
                Originally posted by P4P Opinion
                Your poll sucks ****.

                I admire Wladimir Klitschko as a fighter, as an athlete and as a man, but there are many things wrong with him:

                * Wladimir is cautious to the point of tedium, rarely throwing a power punch unless an opponent is showing signs of fatigue, hurting or wide open.
                I beg to differ on this one. You didn't watch quite a few Wlad fights if you think he rarely throws power shots. Did you watch Wlad Brewster 1&2? What about Wlad Byrd 1&2 or Wlad Chambers? He threw power shots.

                He tore Sam Peter a new one for most of both fights.

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                  #9
                  There’s nothing wrong with Wlad per say.

                  The problem is that he brings no excitement to the world’s most exciting sport – and what should be, and has traditionally been, the most exciting division.

                  This isn’t his fault, it’s just the way he is and it won’t change.

                  Haye will KO him – easily, within 4 rds – and then finally we will have someone with the mouth, the style, the speed and the power to lead the HW pack....just as it should be.

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                  • Jack Napier
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                    #10
                    Wlad wins every rd then finishes with KO's
                    nothing wrong with his style

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