Those who avoided Sir Joe The Legend Killer Calzaghe

[$Bullsfam$]

Well if Joe wasn't wasting his time snorking coke off other men's boners and hitting like a 5 year old girl, then maybe he would have actually relevant back then.

If you think taking a Calzaghe fight over a Trinidad/Oscar or Jermain Taylor fight is ducking then you are a complete ******. That would be like Chad Dawson not fighting Pascal, Johnson or Tarver and instead going after Zolst Erodi(somebody else who rather fight bums on there home turf). I know I messed up on the spelling but you know who I mean.

[DonairesRevenge]

I lol @ all these Brits who think RJJ ducked Calzaghe. Please. Roy would have WHOOPED Calzaghe BADLY in say 2002. And anything less than a 60/40 split in RJJ's favor would have been a slap in the face.

Griffin gave him hell in the first fight, dont talk like Roy was unbeatable because he was far from it.

And what did Joe's camp offer? 50/50? They can fawk off for that. Even if the fight WAS in America. They weren't serious about the fight, you, I, Warren, and everyonefackin' else knows it too.

Calzaghe would most certainly would have no been getting anywhere near 5m.

[DonairesRevenge]

Well if Joe wasn't wasting his time snorking coke off other men's boners and hitting like a 5 year old girl, then maybe he would have actually relevant back then.

If you think taking a Calzaghe fight over a Trinidad/Oscar or Jermain Taylor fight is ducking then you are a complete ******. That would be like Chad Dawson not fighting Pascal, Johnson or Tarver and instead going after Zolst Erodi(somebody else who rather fight bums on there home turf). I know I messed up on the spelling but you know who I mean.

What about over Hakkar or one of the other bums he faced?

[Squizz]

Griffin gave him hell in the first fight, dont talk like Roy was unbeatable because he was far from it.

Yes, but you conveniently neglect to mention how Griffin faded and was well on his way to getting KTFO at the time of the DQ. And if he posed to much of a threat, why did he get KTFO so early in the second fight?

Calzaghe would most certainly would have no been getting anywhere near 5m.

Regardless. Warren was not serious about making the fight. He had a cash cow in Calzaghe, he would have gotten EXPOSED if he ever fought RJJ, because flat-out RJJ was better. You know it, I know it, and everyone else with half an ounce of intelligence knows it. Joe himself knew it as well. So let's put this to rest, because it is simply NOT TRUE.

Answers in bold. You've been exposed sonny.

[daggum]

Calzaghe is one of the most underrated fighters of the past 25 years.

If Joe had been American and black, and exactly the same otherwise, he would be well-respected and highly-regarded by the same people (like daggum) who despise and ridicule him.

The overrated Americans who refuse to leave the US like Jones, Taylor and Hopkins ducked him for years. Props to Mitchell, Sheika and Lacy for having the courage to go over and take their beatings from Joe.

why would i highly regard a guy who fights bums and gets early stoppages? do i highly regard guys like berto? no you are talking nonsense.

it's not courage. it's called economics. those guys didn't fight for big money and had to go to the uk to fight calzaghe. why don't people understand how boxing works?

[$Bullsfam$]

What about over Hakkar or one of the other bums he faced?

Thats irrelevant since the middleweight division was weak. A few bums compared to Cazlaghe's endless resume of bums until he fought Lacey wasn't as good as we thought he was either. Trinidad & De La HOya are 2 of the biggest names in boxing history and pretty much were boxing 5-10 years ago. Calling them out when they wanted to fight him and a lot of people thought they could win does not make Bernard look bad.

Not to mention Bernard's still in the game giving the best young light heavyweights in the world a run for there money. While Calzaghe cashed out for more coke and more boners instead of fighting Pavlik and being in the super 6 which he would have been apart of since it started only the next year. He would have eventually lost and all you Joe nuthuggers know it.

[THe TRiNiTY]

Steve Collins - Retired saying he only wanted Jones. Would later attempt a comeback after he didnt have to face Calzaghe.

That could be a fair enough point, However, wanting Jones over Calzaghe at that point isn't really a "smart" duck. Considering, many, at the time, would have assumed Jones was the better fighter.

Bernard Hopkins - Rejected a a career high purse at that time to face Calzaghe while constantly calling out the 154 division

He rejected the offer because he was making more money fighting the smaller guys in America. Not exactly a duck, truthfully. Not at all.

Roy Jones - Rejected a $5m offer to fight in America.

Not sure about the validity to this claim. So, I can't really comment.

Sven Ottke - Wouldnt even return Warrens phone calls.

Ottke is a *****.

Jermain Taylor - Rejected a $4m offer saying he'd only fight Joe for $10m

Taylor did make decent money in America. He fought decent opponents for the most part in his career. So, wanting more money isn't really a duck. Simply a choice.

Kelly Pavlik - Rejected offers before and after the Miranda fight.

Before the fight, he was offered a fight with Miranda, with the hopes of fighting Taylor if he won for the Middleweight championship. He won, then got the Middleweight championship match. Not a duck, just a different option. It did end up paying off.

I cant say i blame them for ducking Sir Joe but i do feel they should be named and shamed

These are simply the options. At the same time, I'm sure we could hear the other side of the argument. We don't know the stipulations in the contracts or anything along those lines.

Regardless, Calzaghe was a good fighter. Could have bee more, but one of the best 168 pounders ever. If not, the best. However, that division is loaded right now.

[Squizz]

Not sure about the validity to this claim. So, I can't really comment.

I'm almost 100% sure that it isn't true.

[Larry the boss]

Calzaghe is one of the most underrated fighters of the past 25 years.

If Joe had been American and black, and exactly the same otherwise, he would be well-respected and highly-regarded by the same people (like daggum) who despise and ridicule him.

The overrated Americans who refuse to leave the US like Jones, Taylor and Hopkins ducked him for years. Props to Mitchell, Sheika and Lacy for having the courage to go over and take their beatings from Joe.

look at this assh0le pulling the race card

[Drunk Punch]

I'm a big fan of JC, but...

if he really wanted to fight the best opposition, why didn't he ditch Warren and go and make it happen, like he did at the end of his career?