Martinez is the best active fighter right now

[The MiZ]

I think larry has a point, Manny been cherry picking, and Martinez been fighting fights in which people think he had a danger of losing. Martinez # 1 p4P.

[SplitSecond]

You're 100% wrong. Eat some breakfast.

Not only did I say it was a sham of a fight, I predicted Clottey would QUIT. Which he did, by not bothering to throw punches.

regardl;ess you should tell me what was wrong with fighting clottey, should be good

[IMDAZED]

regardl;ess you should tell me what was wrong with fighting clottey, should be good

Regardless of your bull**** you made up about me? Well, the problem is that he pulled out a fight with Floyd to fight Clottey who earned a shot at the world's best by...?

[SplitSecond]

Regardless of your bull**** you made up about me? Well, the problem is that he pulled out a fight with Floyd to fight Clottey who earned a shot at the world's best by...?

i didn't make up nada, i just would'nt dare attempt going through 22k posts to find it

he got it by being the next best thing, by arguably beating cotto? you forget?

how many people would say pacquiao is duckinmg clottey if he hadn't already fought him? who now at welterweight would've beat clottey

and pulled out? dont remember no such thing, dont start reaching

[jpunieves]

pac and martinez on top. donaire on their tail. floyd left eating the dust.

pac is on top because of achievements and age compared to martinez sudden rise of success.

[IMDAZED]

i didn't make up nada, i just would'nt dare attempt going through 22k posts to find it

he got it by being the next best thing, by arguably beating cotto? you forget?

how many people would say pacquiao is duckinmg clottey if he hadn't already fought him? who now at welterweight would've beat clottey

and pulled out? dont remember no such thing, dont start reaching

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=363565&page=2

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=363477&page=6

There's my predictions. You're welcome.

No one would say Pacquiao was ducking Clottey because no one gives a **** about him. Have you ever heard people say Floyd was ducking Clottey? Exactly. Please stop it.

[IronDanHamza]

i didn't make up nada, i just would'nt dare attempt going through 22k posts to find it

he got it by being the next best thing, by arguably beating cotto? you forget?

how many people would say pacquiao is duckinmg clottey if he hadn't already fought him? who now at welterweight would've beat clottey

and pulled out? dont remember no such thing, dont start reaching

Where has this myth come from?

[madsweeney]

Can't agree with you Larry. Yes Martinez's competition has been a bit better over the last 3 fights but remember, he just lost fairly recently and would you honestly say that p4p he'd beat Martinez.

Manny has had sub par (only for him or Floyd that is) fights and he did exactly what he should have, blown them out of the water. Then again, even Berto or Bradley would be considered sub-par at this point. Better than Mosley for sure, but still these guys just aren't on Pac/May's level.

[madsweeney]

Regardless of your bull**** you made up about me? Well, the problem is that he pulled out a fight with Floyd to fight Clottey who earned a shot at the world's best by...?

That's just like, your opinion...man. You say he pulled out of the fight (implicating a duck) most people see it as him staying busy. Then again, you've proven your dislike for Manny for years, no wonder you look at things in the most negative way possible.

[IMDAZED]

That's just like, your opinion...man. You say he pulled out of the fight (implicating a duck) most people see it as him staying busy. Then again, you've proven your dislike for Manny for years, no wonder you look at things in the most negative way possible.

No, he pulled out. Weren't they negotiating? Why did he all of a sudden fight Clottey?