The Excuse of "american heavyweights playing nfl"

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Let me give you an example.

Brock Lesnar, UFC champion, great FIGHTER, freak of nature athlete, ****** at american football.

Great athletes CAN make good fighters, but it's not transferrable, fighting is a mentality, maybe some can cross over but very few indeed.

Lebron James is far more likely to have been another audley harrison or michael grant than the next Muhammed Ali.

This excuse is lame, i am sick of excuses.

Brock Lesnar ****** at football because he was bred to be a fighter, man. He was a college wrestler, not a college football player. Had Lesnar been playing football since he was 8 he probably would of done well. Don't take this the wrong way because it's not in all cases but a great athlete with the right seasoning can excel in almost any sport they are trying to do well. If some of the best athletes in basketball had laced them up at age 4 or 5 I'm pretty sure a lot of them would be successful in boxing. The majors sports are evolved, you need to start when you are a youngster and practice. There are only a few exceptions.

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sergio martinez=great athlete and great fighter he started boxing at 20 so it does sumtyms mean it

Sergio Martinez was raised in a poor area of argentina, he was forced to defend himself from gangs of bullies and did so well, he was a born fighter, he found his platform late.

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Brock Lesnar ****** at football because he was bred to be a fighter, man. He was a college wrestler, not a college football player. Had Lesnar been playing football since he was 8 he probably would of done well. Don't take this the wrong way because it's not in all cases but a great athlete with the right seasoning can excel in almost any sport they are trying to do well. If some of the best athletes in basketball had laced them up at age 4 or 5 I'm pretty sure a lot of them would be successful in boxing. The majors sports are evolved, you need to start when you are a youngster and practice. There are only a few exceptions.

If this is the case, i could say "brazil would own the 154-175lb divisions if they were not all playing soccer"

or "ireland would rule the flyweight division if they were not all being jockeys"

see how ridiculous that statement is

I am not slagging off america, the nfl and nba guys i have a lot of respect for, i love watching the best of any sport ply their trade.

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sergio martinez=great athlete and great fighter he started boxing at 20 so it does sumtyms mean it

Veryyyyy rare. Part of the reason he is where he is is because boxing is watered down. If boxing was in the forefront of American sports he wouldn't be middleweight champion. He beat Pavlik and Williams, I wouldn't consider them great fighters. Boxing is great but to say it isn't watered down is naive. If this was the 60's Martinez would be getting beat down by grade A American athletes. Not beating up on B or C class athletes from America.

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If this is the case, i could say "brazil would own the 154-175lb divisions if they were not all playing soccer"

or "ireland would rule the flyweight division if they were not all being jockeys"

see how ridiculous that statement is

I am not slagging off america, the nfl and nba guys i have a lot of respect for, i love watching the best of any sport ply their trade.

You could say that but Brazil really has no history in boxing. Reality is over the last 7 decades we have seen America go from complete and utter domination to falling to still the best nation but really being on an even playing field with quite a few nations. Something happened and by the way ratings go, it looks like interest is a main reason.

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Great Athletes AND Fighters.

Audley Harrison, GREAT ATHLETE
Michael Grant GREAT ATHLETE
Larry Olubamiwo GREAT ATHLETE
Jeff Lacy GREAT ATHLETE

Get it straight, it is a MENTALITY that very few have.

You are born with it, you do not learn it.

Those who have it, will find their platform

Right, and some of the worlds greatest athletes find their platform in another sport besides boxing. Your argument would have people to believe that the only people capable of being great fighters actually become great fighters because they were "born with it" and instinctively went that route because they are fighters.

How can you disregard great athletes in other sports with the temperment of fighters. Athletes like Ray Lewis who is very outspoken and displays a lot of heart on the field. How about Ronnie Lott, a guy who broke his finger while playing, and instead of coming out of the game, had the tip of it amputated so he could continue. How about a guy with the intensity of Mike Singletary?

I am sure there are athletes in other sports, mainly soccer, that I don't follow that have the same temperment to become a fighter.

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You could say that but Brazil really has no history in boxing. Reality is over the last 7 decades we have seen America go from complete and utter domination to falling to still the best nation but really being on an even playing field with quite a few nations. Something happened and by the way ratings go, it looks like interest is a main reason.

I could just as easily say that it's interest from other countries increasing that is the root cause, particularly the Soviet Union collapsing, and releasing their crop into the common stock

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Right, and some of the worlds greatest athletes find their platform in another sport besides boxing. Your argument would have people to believe that the only people capable of being great fighters actually become great fighters because they were "born with it" and instinctively went that route because they are fighters.

How can you disregard great athletes in other sports with the temperment of fighters. Athletes like Ray Lewis who is very outspoken and displays a lot of heart on the field. How about Ronnie Lott, a guy who broke his finger while playing, and instead of coming out of the game, had the tip of it amputated so he could continue. How about a guy with the intensity of Mike Singletary?

I am sure there are athletes in other sports, mainly soccer, that I don't follow that have the same temperment to become a fighter.

Spot on with this post. A lot of great athletes might be in another sport because their parents stirred them away from it or just found a niche in another sport because of friends or school. We don't know if Lebron James would be a great boxer, even Lebron James might not know because he may of never strapped on the gloves in his life. If Boxing was bigger here I am sure we would have a lot more hits though because more would give it a try. I'm from Detroit, a very historic boxing city, yet it's nearly impossible to find a gym here. The stars have to absolutely align right for a great American boxer nowadays. Too many sports to partake in, no boxing in american schools, your parents saying its dangerous, hardly on tv to show parents that this sport is safe enough, the list goes on and on. I can't even imagine what my parents would of said if I told them I wanted to get punched in the face for a living.

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The argument is pathetic and americans love churning it out. Americans are so blinkered they think that other countries do not play other sports either. In the UK we can just as easily say all our best heavyweights are playing rugby (a major world sport-played by more countries than american football), or soccer (worlds most popular sport and both rugby and soccer are for more popular in england than boxing) it is effectively the same argument.

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It's not an excuse it's the truth. Great athletes can certainly mean great fighters. Sure, if a NFL player stepped in the ring right now he would get blistered but if he had focused his whole childhood on boxing his chances of success would be great. You bring up Mike Tyson and the NFL. Had Tyson decided to play football instead he probably would of done well at that as well. Thing is NFL was not as large as it is now and Boxing was still pretty big here, so he chose boxing. IMO the best athletes in American, boxing related, are playing in the NBA though. The rise of the NBA has really hurt American Boxing.

its not the truth its bull****. truth is americans cant box anymore cus they ran out of talent, but thats not to say american boxers will be turds forever. generation comes in cycles and right now americans are in a turd cycle.

you telling me european fighters wud rather get punched in the face than play soccer? Top tier euro soccer players make just as much money as NFL and NBA players.