To this point what is Jones' career defining/best win

[Super_Lightweight]

hmm

I don't see why his 1st fight with tarver is not an option. He showed he had heart, desire, chin, resiliance, and guts in that fight. That fight is probably the one I watch the most of any of his fights.

Ruiz was pretty impressive and a semi-historical feat, but I like the Tarver win better.

Toney may have not been in the best shape, but he also cam in out of shape vs a lot of guys and still won handily. Credit Jones.

[Bozo_no no]

I really hate the Jones Toney fight. Jones won probably every round, but it seems like he went the whole fight without landing a damaging punch.

I'm not sure anyone has ever landed a devistating punch on Toney, and what does that have to do with it not being an impressive one sided win?

Winky didn't hurt Tito in the least, but he embarassed him none the less.

[Parodius]

Because it didn't have notiriety at the time doesn't mean anything.

Hopkins didn't lose for 10 years after that. It was two all time great fighters going at it early in their careers.

Also, it's not Jones fault Toney came in soft, nor does that excuse Toney from getting shut out 120-107.

No one has ever come close to doing that to Toney before or since.

Toney just wasn't fat during that fight, he was also going through some personal problems in his life. Also Bitchkins was green during that fight, the Bitchkins fight was a boring close fight. The Bitchkins of today would've beaten the Bitchkins that fought Jones. Bitchkins also thought that he beat Jones, then he changed his mine after he lost to Taylor. Also Jones never took the rematch against Bitchkins.

[BadMagick]

The fight vs Toney though really made Jones a star though, since Toney was the p4p #1 at teh time. However Toney was in bad condition in that fight, and the style in which JOnes won was to me not overrly impressive regardless that he may have won 10 or 11 rounds.

He won all 12, in my opinion. James always came in out of shape, that's how he was. I don't think that should be used to discredit the loss. Seriously, how many fights did he come in and they were saying he had a hard time making weight? That's not Jones' fault, and it shouldn't be held against him.

[Bozo_no no]

I don't see why his 1st fight with tarver is not an option. He showed he had heart, desire, chin, resiliance, and guts in that fight. That fight is probably the one I watch the most of any of his fights.

Ruiz was pretty impressive and a semi-historical feat, but I like the Tarver win better.

Toney may have not been in the best shape, but he also cam in out of shape vs a lot of guys and still won handily. Credit Jones.

1. Tarver was a relative nobody before that fight, so it was of very little signifigance.

2. While Jones clearly won, he struggled and was not impressive.

It was the first fight that showed Jones slowed down a little, and had a bit of interest because he regained the Lt Heavyweight titles.

Really, that would be likening the Donny Lalond fight as one of Ray Leonard's career defining wins.

I don't see it at all.

[Parodius]

I don't see why his 1st fight with tarver is not an option. He showed he had heart, desire, chin, resiliance, and guts in that fight. That fight is probably the one I watch the most of any of his fights.

Ruiz was pretty impressive and a semi-historical feat, but I like the Tarver win better.

Toney may have not been in the best shape, but he also cam in out of shape vs a lot of guys and still won handily. Credit Jones.

Because most people thought he lost that fight. Don't you remember the polls?

[scap]

I have to go with Toney as well, at the time regardless of shape Toney was arguably the best p4p fighter in the wolrd (Whitaker was the best at the time) even though he had begun to eat himslef out of the super middlewight division.

So you had 2 of the 3 top p4p fighters in the wolrd squaring off, thats a pretty big W.

Hopkins was very very green in the fight with Jones and he gave a poor effort down the stretch of a fight that he knew he was losing on the cards, he never said **** it Im gonna rough this kid up like he did to a lot of his opponents. The W certainly aged like a fine wine though.

Hopkins or Toney either way Roy manage to inflict no damage on either man and still win easily. That is just the kinda fighter Jones was.

[Bozo_no no]

Toney just wasn't fat during that fight, he was also going through some personal problems in his life. Also Bitchkins was green during that fight, the Bitchkins fight was a boring close fight. The Bitchkins of today would've beaten the Bitchkins that fought Jones. Bitchkins also thought that he beat Jones, then he changed his mine after he lost to Taylor. Also Jones never took the rematch against Bitchkins.

You're an idiot.

Who cares what Toney did or was going through. He's a class fighter and he was SHUT OUT. Period.

Your inablility to call Hopkins by his name sums up your maturity level and your credibility.

Hopkins wasn't green, and he made a great account of himself and lost a competitive fight.

Hopkins is a top 5 - 10 middleweight of all time, and Jones beat him when they were both young and hungry.

Any way you try and spin it doesn't change the fact it was a significant win.

That's like saying the Benetiez fight wasn't a good win for Leonard because Benetiez was green.

Bull ****.

[scap]

1. Tarver was a relative nobody before that fight, so it was of very little signifigance.

2. While Jones clearly won, he struggled and was not impressive.

It was the first fight that showed Jones slowed down a little, and had a bit of interest because he regained the Lt Heavyweight titles.

Really, that would be likening the Donny Lalond fight as one of Ray Leonard's career defining wins.

I don't see it at all.

Im not a Tarver fan at all but to compare Tarver with Donny Lalonde??? Maybe if he would have ko'd an old Leonard I might be able to agree but as much as I dont like Tony Tarver I wont disprespect him that much by comparing him to Lalonde.

[Bozo_no no]

But that fight wasn't a big fight. His biggest win was against the fat out of shape Toney.

It was the 1st time either of them had fought for a title (IBF), and was two all time great fighters young and hungry.

Again, that's like saying Leonard Beneitez wasn't a big fight.

Sorry, you're wrong.