Floyd Mayweather at 34 is DONE in terms of greatness

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  • SirTomJones
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    #111
    Originally posted by IronDanHamza
    In my opinion?

    Corrales
    Hernandez
    Castillo
    Mosley
    Hatton

    But what does this have to do with what he's achieved?

    I mean, he's considered an HOF level 130 Lb'er alone. Being the Lineal Champion there with 8 title defences.

    That's without what he's achieved at his 4 other weight classes.

    Quite difficult to dispute he's an ATG...
    Mosley? Really?

    Shame he made Hatton fight outside of his strongest weight class too.

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      #112
      Originally posted by Chopper417
      I mean it completely baffles me how you could possibly criticize or critique that performance. Besides the second round he was literally flawless and administered a complete and utter a** beating. Nobody has EVER dominated Mosley so thoroughly. Why would Floyd use his legs and run and jump around the ring when he clearly didn't need to. He stood right in front of Shayne and completely demoralized/obliterated him.
      I was not hating on his preformence it was great. I was giving an observation on something that I saw that was not like the Floyd we all know. It might be what you said that he didn't need to run or it might be a case of old legs we will find out if he fights again. Either way he still dominated but if he had fought like Floyd, Mosley would have never landed that big punch.

      Another thing if Floyd stands in front of Pacquiao like he did with Mosley Pacquiao will damage him pretty badly and I am not a fan boy of either guy.

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      • IronDanHamza
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        #113
        Originally posted by Sir TomJones
        Mosley? Really?

        Shame he made Hatton fight outside of his strongest weight class too.
        Yes, Mosley.

        You know? The Lineal Champion at the time? Top 3 at WW, arguablly #1. THE best available opponent at the time, That Mosley? Then yes, Mosley.

        He made Hatton move up? Did Collazo make him move up to?

        Do you not consider Whitaker's win over Nelson a good win for the same reason?

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          #114
          Originally posted by IronDanHamza
          Yes, Mosley.

          You know? The Lineal Champion at the time? Top 3 at WW, arguablly #1. THE best available opponent at the time, That Mosley? Then yes, Mosley.

          He made Hatton move up? Did Collazo make him move up to?

          Do you not consider Whitaker's win over Nelson a good win for the same reason?
          Mosley was the Linneal Champion? What?

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          • SirTomJones
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            #115
            Originally posted by IronDanHamza
            Yes, Mosley.

            You know? The Lineal Champion at the time? Top 3 at WW, arguablly #1. THE best available opponent at the time, That Mosley? Then yes, Mosley.

            He made Hatton move up?

            Mosley, I know, the one who struggled against Sergio Mora. Mosley who had 16months off.

            Yeah Hatton did move up but it would have been more impressive if Floyd beat Hatton at the weight Ricky was the king of.

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              #116
              Originally posted by DempseyRollin
              he has more than speed and reflexes. his technique is really the best in the world. see bhop.
              But if he doesn't fight, what good is it?

              I don't think anyone in the right frame of mind who will not credit him for having SUPERLATIVE SKILLS and TECHNIQUES. He is probably the greatest defender I've ever seen.

              But his heart is the one being questioned...over time, the very same thing with ROY JONES - he just gradually fazed out. With Mayweather's one-shot albeit VERY ACCURATE POT-SHOTTING, I don't think it's enough to beat Pacquiao now.

              Perhaps a couple of years ago....but I can't see it now.

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              • BehindBars
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                #117
                Nobody can say whether Mayweather is done yet.

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                • IronDanHamza
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                  #118
                  Originally posted by Sir TomJones
                  Mosley, I know, the one who struggled against Sergio Mora. Mosley who had 16months off.

                  Yeah Hatton did move up but it would have been more impressive if Floyd beat Hatton at the weight Ricky was the king of.
                  He struggled with Mora after he fought Floyd. When Floyd fought him he was considered the best fighter available for him other than Pacqiauo. And a top 3 WW, arguablly #1 at WW. A fight many people screamed for Floyd to take. It's an impressive win.

                  Yeah, more impressive. Doesn't mean It's not impressive because he was 1 weight class higher, one he was a belt holder in at that.

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                  • tredh
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                    #119
                    Originally posted by Sir TomJones
                    Mosley, I know, the one who struggled against Sergio Mora. Mosley who had 16months off.

                    Yeah Hatton did move up but it would have been more impressive if Floyd beat Hatton at the weight Ricky was the king of.
                    Please explain to me how PBF was wrong? When PBF offered Hatton a fight when both were at 140 and Hatton along with his team said "They were not ready" So PBF moves up to 147. What sense does it make for the more popular and #1 ranked fighter in all of boxing to move down in weight to fight a guy who you already offered to fight at 140 knowing any other fight you have will be at 147? Funny how you also not even mentioning that Hatton team said one of the reasons they will take the fight at 147 is because PBF is not a physical maul you style of fighter and thought Hatton would be the stronger guy in the fight.

                    You just nitpicking.

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                      #120
                      Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                      Yes, Mosley.

                      You know? The Lineal Champion at the time? Top 3 at WW, arguablly #1. THE best available opponent at the time, That Mosley? Then yes, Mosley.

                      He made Hatton move up? Did Collazo make him move up to?

                      Do you not consider Whitaker's win over Nelson a good win for the same reason?
                      mosley was not the lineal champion. the best guy at the time and still is pac. how was mosley top 3? yes he beat a weigth drained margarito who lost 30 pounds in 8 weeks to make the weight.

                      Pac, floyd and cotto were better than him so he was not the top 3, remember he also came off a 16 month lay off

                      hatton alsmost got k0d at 147 by other guys before fighting floyd, he was a good light welter but a decent welter at best

                      floyd will be considerd at around the 50-75 range of goat when he retires, him avoiding the likes of kosta (sp?), mosley (prime), cotto, margo, willians and pacman will be the reason he will be remembered at the end

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