Prime Ali vs Prime Wlad

[$tate of Mind]

Ali gets KTFO by vicious left hooks from Wlad.

[Joeyzagz]

60's Ali beats Wlad.

70's Ali would be more interesting, but edge Wlad

[Dave Rado]

But yes I do think the speed difference between Ali and Wlad is comparible to Louis-Carnera.

That's just ridiculous. Wlad has very fast hands, fast feet, good footwork, great balance (now), and he also has superb timing. Canera had none of those qualities. You still seem to be mixing Wlad up with Valuev.

[Dave Rado]

****** trolling post

Were you born this ****** or did it creep up on you gradually?

[sunny31]

Ali tko mid rounds, very competitive though.

Anyone that knows boxing knows ali could punch, his and srl power is severely underrated because people chose to focus on their razzle dazzle and other more eye catching attributes.

[sweetpea87]

Prime Ali beats any HW

[goblin213]

I think some of you guys are thinking about 70's version of Ali, the color TV Ali, not the 60's Ali (black and white TV).

[sunny31]

A more competitive fight is prime lennox vs prime ali now that is a pick em imo.

People need to realise that wlad hasn't been out-boxing (and to his credit dominating) good fighters. At this stage of his career I would compare his resume similar to joe calzaghe's before he unified. He has dominated very sub-par competition on the whole with a few solid/decent wins. You cannot justify anything in wladmir's case apart from that he is extremely professional has dominated the current level of heavyweights and is beyond the level he has been fighting at. The klitschko fans will have you fooled that these contenders are good fighters, but I think even relatively uneducated boxing fans can see the lack of competition. He has never faced a world class heavyweight.

[Canelo Phresh]

I hope you're just posting that to wind people up. If you seriously think there is any comparison between Carnera and Wlad, you know nothing about boxing. Carnera and Valuev, maybe.

i think valuev might be lil better lol

[cupocity303]

I agree Wlad/Carnera are not alike skill wise, and I am not just winding people up to say. I just think younger people tend to think the latest fighters are the best ever.
"Mayweather is as better than Ray Robinson"and "Klitschko is better than Ali"........

This is true.

But what also is true, is that the ones who consider themselves knowledgeable and have watched Boxing for long time, tend to be Historically biased towards the past, and always favor the old school fighters of the Golden Years over todays crop of fighters, which isn't fair.

Say what you want about accomplishments and Ali's resume VS Klitschko's resume, but look at the fight objectively on a Ability Vs Ability, Style Vs Style basis, and you will find that Ali himself hasn't faced anything like a Wlad Klitschko - The size, the skill, the primary weapon of a Jab, all combined into one.

What you will hear from historically biased people though, is that Wlad Klitschko hasn't faced anything like an Ali, that todays fighters are garbage etc,. That's one point of view to try and make their case.

Even when it comes to Bum fighters, journeyman fighters, Mid-level fighters, a Historically biased individual will automatically presume that Bum from the Past >>>> Bum/Journeyman of the present, therefore Ali's wins against Mid-level guys is even considered better. How do we know this for certain?

Maybe because they looked tougher on black and white TV than they do on HD Tv today. I don't know.