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  • ROSS CALIFORNIA
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    #51
    Originally posted by Steelhammer2011
    1. Klitschko
    2. Klitschko

    Either Klitschko beats any HW from any era.
    I agree, Tyson doesn't even get out of the first round with either of them. White people are number one!!!!

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    • Joeyzagz
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      #52
      Originally posted by hweightblogger
      Now let's check what the actual REAL HEAVYWEIGHT experience of opponents was (since no one cares about LHW experience or so) (yes, I checked 130'000+ fights for you, JoeySuckZ):

      Wladimir Klitschko: Opponents' median experience (200x2): 24
      Vitali Klitschko: 25
      Lennox: 25
      The Clay: 9
      Tyson: 19
      George Foreman: 10
      Mack/Marciano: 0
      J.Lo: 0
      Larry Holmes: 11

      In other words: The experience of opponents of Clay, Mack, J.Lo was pretty worthless in terms of what we consider heavyweight now. Most of their opponents had mainly cruiser experience, LHW experience or below.

      median HW experience is the most meaningless stat youve ever come up with. Its as useful as Pacquiao's median WW experience when he was moving up.

      -What was Holyfields median opponent Hw experience when he KTFO'd Buster Douglas?

      -How about Roy Jones when he dominated Ruiz?

      -Spinks when he faced Cooney, Holmes?

      0,0,0! Yet all those fights were better wins than anything Wlad has been apart of. Wlad is a fortunate beneficiary of gains trade, yet still has been KO'd more than Joe Louis, Foreman, Evander, and most of the top 15 heavyweights. He will be remembered as Vitali's sister and nothing more.

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      • Rick Grimes
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        #53
        Originally posted by JoeyZagz
        median HW experience is the most meaningless stat youve ever come up with. Its as useful as Pacquiao's median WW experience when he was moving up.

        -What was Holyfields median opponent Hw experience when he KTFO'd Buster Douglas?

        -How about Roy Jones when he dominated Ruiz?

        -Spinks when he faced Cooney, Holmes?

        0,0,0! Yet all those fights were better wins than anything Wlad has been apart of. Wlad is a fortunate beneficiary of gains trade, yet still has been KO'd more than Joe Louis, Foreman, Evander, and most of the top 15 heavyweights. He will be remembered as Vitali's sister and nothing more.
        He said in another thread that fat HW's have and advantage over in shape ones and don't gas.

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        • jimmy1569
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          #54
          Originally posted by hweightblogger
          It's 92% and it's not best ever. Frank Bruno has 95%.

          But Bruno KOed sub-200 opponents.

          Once you delete sub-200 opponents, Wins by DQ, fights that ended due to an unintentional headbutt, and NC/ND, and champs who had less than TEN 200+ fights (since 1 KO in 1 fights equals 100% KOratio) the top KOers amongst the world champs are:
          **))

          But a far better statistic than KOratio is "Rounds needed per KO" because that includes the SPEED of the KO.

          87 KO'S in 96 w's = 90.6% If Frank Bruno & let's add Haye & Hide into the equation..have better so be it...it;s just to show the style you win by.. Rounds needed per Ko is a good gauge as Wlad & Vitali get them out of there in about 4.5 rds per Ko.. funny how this is one stat the haters wouldn't acknowledge. Wlad is slighly better than Vitali in least amount of rds per victory & rounds per KO... The ultimate gauge is simply getting the Ko for every fight you've fought & no one in the heavies has done it better than Vitali at 88.4% despite Haye's slight percentage lead despite most of his fights being at the lower division. When he faces Vitali... he'll fall behind Vitali so it's all good.

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          • hweightblogger
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            #55
            Originally posted by JoeyZagz
            median HW experience is the most meaningless stat youve ever come up with.
            I disagree. Usually the most useless statistic is a streak statistic.

            Moreover it's true that median HW experience is rather useless in assessing resumes, but not useless in assessing records (= give a general record overview).

            But, hey, I was inspired by your post to actually check it, so it's actually your baby.

            Originally posted by JoeyZagz
            Its as useful as Pacquiao's median WW experience when he was moving up.
            Give me no nonsense about Pacquiao's record when we talk about heavyweights.

            Originally posted by JoeyZagz
            What was Holyfields median opponent Hw experience when he KTFO'd Buster Douglas?

            -How about Roy Jones when he dominated Ruiz?

            -Spinks when he faced Cooney, Holmes?
            I agree that medians of opponents are pretty useless in assessing single fights. But then again I never claimed to.

            Originally posted by JoeyZagz
            0,0,0! Yet all those fights were better wins than anything Wlad has been apart of. Wlad is a fortunate beneficiary of gains trade, yet still has been KO'd more than Joe Louis, Foreman, Evander, and most of the top 15 heavyweights. He will be remembered as Vitali's sister and nothing more.
            Aaah, the hater that you are.
            Last edited by hweightblogger; 03-05-2011, 02:48 AM.

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            • Poet682006
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              #56
              Originally posted by RossCA
              I agree, Tyson doesn't even get out of the first round with either of them. White people are number one!!!!
              Careful now! The sarcasm will go right over his head and he'll make some psuedo-scientific post proporting to "prove" it's true :hahahaha9:

              Poet
              Last edited by Poet682006; 03-05-2011, 03:26 AM.

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              • Poet682006
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                #57
                Originally posted by Steelhammer2011
                Vitali Klitschko vs Lennox Lewis

                THE TRUTH

                Vitali took the fight on just 10 days notice then grew a vagina on his face.

                Vitali was clearly winning the fight 4-2 on all 3 scorecards at the time of growing a vagina on his face.

                vaginas grown on face

                Vitali 1
                Lewis 0

                Lewis was exhausted from turning Vitali's face into a sex organ.

                All the fans at Staples Center cheered for Vitali and booed Lewis after the fight because, hey, everyone loves puzzy on their faces.

                Lewis promised Vitali another facial vagina.

                Vitali destroyed Kirk Johnson because he was embaressed by having a vagina on his face.

                Lewis turned down 30 million dollars because he knew Vitali would retire on his stool like a coward like he did with Byrd.

                Vitali dominated with vagisil and scared his face vagina into retirement.

                Lewis is scared to death of getting a yeast infection from Vitali's face vagina.
                Glad to see you telling like it is :allhail9:
                Last edited by Poet682006; 03-06-2011, 03:58 AM.

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                • badass316
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                  #58
                  Wherever they end up being ranked in the HW list, I assume Vitali would end up 10-15 spots higher than his brother.

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                  • Steak
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by badass316
                    Wherever they end up being ranked in the HW list, I assume Vitali would end up 10-15 spots higher than his brother.
                    actually the opposite, Wladimir has beaten a lot more top fighters than Vitali.

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                    • F A R L A P
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                      #60
                      Wlad @ 13-14
                      Vitali @ 16-17

                      But they both get bumbed up to 10 because of your awesome poll choices.

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