Comments Thread For: De La Hoya: Mayweather-Pacquiao Happens, Floyd Will Win

[KingOfBox]

You do realize your points can be nullified. The "other mastered tecniques" is pretty much just his high guard, (pac penetrated a tighter version vs Clottey) and that jab to the stomach, very risky against a southpaw with a good counter right-hook, not to mention instead of hitting the solar plexus (vs orthodox) he'd be hitting Pac's ribcage.

You are right about one thing though, Mayweather does have the best lead right in the game, then again, Pac has the best lead left (arguably better than Floyd's right) and has more power behind it.

Floyd has the best right hand lead MAYBE in the history of boxing... Manny's best attribute is he punches dead ahead... barely any looping punches.. lots of snappy jabs and crosses, but its not the same hitting these others guys as it is Floyd... I mean damn, really??? Cotto, Margarito, Clottey... They stand right in front of you for you to hit em... As far as power. ok i'll give it to Pac (as he did with Hatton), but besides that his power is a bit overrated... His damage is built by quantity, not quality. He will slice and dice you all day if you let him.. Almost everyone gets up from his knockdowns (JMM x 4, Cotto x 2, Hatton x 2, Morales x lord knows how many).... Point is they usually don't stay down. But lets take into account Floyd picks his punches. He was on the verge of TKO'ing Mosley in the 10th and 11th without throwing much... If Floyd doesn't score many TKO's its because of his style...not soo much his power. Look up the body shot he gave Shane in the 10th or 11th round.. Shane did not like that at all... And Naazim told him to pick it up or he would stop it. Besides, defensive ability...Floyd has shown a granite chin. Anyone who is thinking they'll walk through Floyd's shots is seriously delirious. Dude is a sniper... And Manny is a strong submachine gun... They're just different

[Tacate Beans]

Now, I'm no Megamind but De laPuta does have a N!ggamind, Biatchhh's been Sucking N!99er hankys for so long!!!!!

[madsweeney]

LOL son come on???

Clottey simply had a high guard, he wasnt looking to even land anything really. and manny looked worse than him!!!


You know damn well Floyd is not coming to cover up in a high guard and take a beating...

FLOYD IS GONNA RAIN ON MANNY'S ASS.

Silly child, I was comparing Clottey's tighter guard, not his counter punching. i.e. Pac will be able to penetrate Floyd's guard which isn't quite as tight as Clottey's, sure he'll be trying to counter but we all know floyd, defense first, then when he's sure he'll land he'll throw and once he counters, he's open.

Yea, he's going to rain on his ass...like he hasn't done in over 6+ years and even then, against someone a level or two below Pac.

floyd has faced evry style in boxing. he has beat lefties. pac has never faced a boxer like floyd. i give pac 3 rounds before floyds adjustments take the fight to deep waters where all floyds opponets end up drowning.

Considering nobody has Pac's style, how can you say Floyd has fought it? Easy to assume he'll adjust and he probably will but nobody can say if it'll be enough. How do you predict a style which is based on unpredictability?

[MindBat]

You do realize your points can be nullified. The "other mastered tecniques" is pretty much just his high guard, (pac penetrated a tighter version vs Clottey) and that jab to the stomach, very risky against a southpaw with a good counter right-hook, not to mention instead of hitting the solar plexus (vs orthodox) he'd be hitting Pac's ribcage.

You are right about one thing though, Mayweather does have the best lead right in the game, then again, Pac has the best lead left (arguably better than Floyd's right) and has more power behind it.

Floyd has the best right hand lead MAYBE in the history of boxing... Manny's best attribute is he punches dead ahead... barely any looping punches.. lots of snappy jabs and crosses, but its not the same hitting these others guys as it is Floyd... I mean damn, really??? Cotto, Margarito, Clottey... They stand right in front of you for you to hit em... As far as power. ok i'll give it to Pac (as he did with Hatton), but besides that his power is a bit overrated... His damage is built by quantity, not quality. He will slice and dice you all day if you let him.. Almost everyone gets up from his knockdowns (JMM x 4, Cotto x 2, Hatton x 2, Morales x lord knows how many).... Point is they usually don't stay down. But lets take into account Floyd picks his punches. He was on the verge of TKO'ing Mosley in the 10th and 11th without throwing much... If Floyd doesn't score many TKO's its because of his style...not soo much his power. Look up the body shot he gave Shane in the 10th or 11th round.. Shane did not like that at all... And Naazim told him to pick it up or he would stop it. Besides, defensive ability...Floyd has shown a granite chin. Anyone who is thinking they'll walk through Floyd's shots is seriously delirious. Dude is a sniper... And Manny is a strong submachine gun... They're just different

This is why this fight must be made. Many anticipate a Floyd win, but everyone wants to see if Manny can beat the best at his own game.

[madsweeney]

Floyd has the best right hand lead MAYBE in the history of boxing... Manny's best attribute is he punches dead ahead... barely any looping punches.. lots of snappy jabs and crosses, but its not the same hitting these others guys as it is Floyd... I mean damn, really??? Cotto, Margarito, Clottey... They stand right in front of you for you to hit em... As far as power. ok i'll give it to Pac (as he did with Hatton), but besides that his power is a bit overrated... His damage is built by quantity, not quality. He will slice and dice you all day if you let him.. Almost everyone gets up from his knockdowns (JMM x 4, Cotto x 2, Hatton x 2, Morales x lord knows how many).... Point is they usually don't stay down. But lets take into account Floyd picks his punches. He was on the verge of TKO'ing Mosley in the 10th and 11th without throwing much... If Floyd doesn't score many TKO's its because of his style...not soo much his power. Look up the body shot he gave Shane in the 10th or 11th round.. Shane did not like that at all... And Naazim told him to pick it up or he would stop it. Besides, defensive ability...Floyd has shown a granite chin. Anyone who is thinking they'll walk through Floyd's shots is seriously delirious. Dude is a sniper... And Manny is a strong submachine gun... They're just different

Best lead right in the history of boxing??? Considering it hasn't significantly hurt anyone in years, I find that hard to believe.

And as far as the "vs opponents right in front of him" comparision, the same thing can be said for Floyd's opponents for the past hmm 8+years

Power is definately in Pac's favor, he knocked down and hurt Cotto one single punches relatively early in the fight and buckled Marg to the body. Floyd's workrate is much lower, but you guys tout how accuracy and catching people with hits his opponents don't see are what score KD's, yet when's the last time he staggered someone, let alone KD? Sniper implys high power, high accuracy, he's more of a .22 @ ww, accurate as hell but not really knocking anything down or out.

Taking 2 solid shots and having your knees buckle until you can hold isn't having a "granite chin"...a granite chin takes those shots and shows no sign of wear and tear (ala Marg eating 100+ of those shots before staggering)

[iNDOLiFER]

ive said this before, i really think clotey threw that fight. when you look at all the other clottey fights, you see a man mad to win. vs pac when he threw, he landed at will. so why did he not fight? he was just there. and manny is so open to counters jmm proved this. people see manny look spectacular vs soup cans and think he will look the same vs a TRUE P4P fighter. they are mistaken. plus manny has to get past shane.

So u believe clottey gave that fight away on purpose? Lol.. Why was he covering up and not throw? Because As soon as he let's his guard down he got tagged by manny.. He even said so himself during the post fight interview..

[AllEyesOpen]

I see Mayweather having a lot of success with Pac if he fought him the same way he fought Marquez, with a seldom used, but highly effective jab. Pac could make Mayweather very uncomfortable but Mayweather has a great ability to adapt. My opinion is Mayweather U/SD. Not saying he wins easily but he could take control of the fight and Pacquiao might not be able to get it back.

Then again i wouldn't consider it impossible for Pac to get a SD or late stoppage, it all depends on who gains and keeps control of the fight.

[Walt Liquor]

did someone say "floyd has faced every style in boxing"

[DominiBox]

I think De La Hoya is right…. look what happen to Marquez, and Marquez bit the **** out of Pacquiao ones.

Based on that comment, i can say Pacquiao will beat Floyd.....cuz look what Pacquiao did to Hatton, De la Hoya....compared to FLoyd. And wait to see what he's going to do with Mosley.

[madsweeney]

I see Mayweather having a lot of success with Pac if he fought him the same way he fought Marquez, with a seldom used, but highly effective jab. Pac could make Mayweather very uncomfortable but Mayweather has a great ability to adapt. My opinion is Mayweather U/SD. Not saying he wins easily but he could take control of the fight and Pacquiao might not be able to get it back.

Then again i wouldn't consider it impossible for Pac to get a SD or late stoppage, it all depends on who gains and keeps control of the fight.

I actually don't think his jab will win this, Pac and roach have worked on countering jabs since the DLH fight. He countered DLH's (I know he was slow), Cotto's (who had a very good jab), Clottey's (not many thrown though) and Marg's. Pac won't be as sucessful countering Floyds as he doesn't have a speed advantage but if he does start countering it I can see Floyd stop throwing it and using something less likely to be countered like lead left hooks. After all, Pac will most likely be circling away from Floyd's right hand, sitting in left hook territory.