Would the klitchko's last in the 70s?

[Rick Grimes]

So is he a good fighter who lost to someone better or will he be cast off as a "hypejob" if he loses?

It's the Klitschko fans that are calling him bum, hypejob etc.

[Spray_resistant]

Dominating burger boys isn't impressive.

What do you want him to do make opponents you like out of thin air? invent a time machine? These two are dominating their era and whether anyone likes it or not when they retire they will both most likely be spoken of in FF matches and put on the same level against other ATG HWs for as long as boxing is around.

[-The Game-]

So is he a good fighter who lost to someone better or will he be cast off as a "hypejob" if he loses?

Considering how the fight is being portrayed...I am sure Wlad will get a lot of credit...but I personally wont go completely crazy for it just because Haye hasnt beaten anyone of note in the division beforehand.....

[Spray_resistant]

It's the Klitschko fans that are calling him bum, hypejob etc.

No we call him a ducker, a talented fighter with serious ko power though.

[hweightblogger]

you are a broken record with your ******ed numbers that dont even matter.

Oh, so The Clay's performances against guys like Klitschkos don't matter. Good to know.

even you just said that ability>size.

OF COURSE it's ability > size IN THE SAME WEIGHT RANGE. You know very well that a top featherweight would have only little chances against a BUMMY HEAVYWEIGHT.

It's WEIGHT divisions for a reason.

and yet you turn around and still spout the same 'real HW' BS, which means absolutely nothing since Ive proven that being bigger!=having more KO power nor makes you have a better chin.

So far you have not proven anything. And especially not with your Julius Long example.

At least you grudgingly are admitting that Holmes and Foreman would do well in this era, that means Ive gotten somewhere.

Huh? Larry Holmes (80ies, not part of the "golden age") and Foreman are ATGs. What is there to admit?

They would still lose against the Klitschkos but they are far more competitive than the rest of the 60s and 70s.

but you dont think any other fighters would? so Holmes would do well, yet Norton, who was large and an outstanding athlete as well and gave Holmes absolute hell, would not?

You are correct. Norton would not.

and you dont think Ali would do well either, despite the fact he beat Foreman(by KO no less).

You are correct. Despite of the fact that Ali KOed Foreman, Foreman would do better in the current era. But as I mentioned above that KO atypical, inconclusive and overshadowed, but that's a topic of its own.

not even prime Holyfield could put away a 43 or something year old Foreman

Evan Fields is a featherfist. That Fields cannot KO somebody is the rule not the exception.

I mean, did you see the bombs Foreman ate in that fight?

No, I didn't. I don't care about punches that LOOK hard. Fields' record tells the real story.

...but you need to at least notice that this was a very good era full of very good HWs, and that a good deal of them would be more than 'competitive' in todays era.

I disagree. I watched too many of these fights to be impressed. Only Foreman would be competitive. The Clay not, Norton not, Frazier DEFINITELY not.

[Steak]

It's the Klitschko fans that are calling him bum, hypejob etc.

yes, they have already decided that he is the worst HW champ of all time. really went out of their way to reinterate it for some reason, too....

I have a feeling they will still explode with praise when Wladimir beats him.

[Spray_resistant]

Considering how the fight is being portrayed...I am sure Wlad will get a lot of credit...but I personally wont go completely crazy for it just because Haye hasnt beaten anyone of note in the division beforehand.....

I expect the Wlad win to, maybe even easily but if Wlad does stop him early it wouldn't mean that Haye wasn't any good though I will admit he isn't greatly proven either at HW.

[hweightblogger]

just look at haye...he aintt done sh.it in the division..yet everyone is talking about him....in most other eras...Haye would just be a normal guy moving into the heavyweight division

That is incorrect. During Ali's times Haye's complete record would have been called "heavyweight" thus he would have been the proof of the greatness of the era.

[Rick Grimes]

No we call him a ducker, a talented fighter with serious ko power though.

You might do, but most Tunney, Steelhammer, Wladischamp etc call him a bum glass chinned fraud who ducked the best CW.

[-The Game-]

Lets be honest...if Haye was a french man and couldnt speak English...this fight with Wlad wouldnt be hyped at all...in fact it would be more of a Vitaly-Solis build up...........cuz Haye anit done **** yet to prove himself.....