Would the klitchko's last in the 70s?

[Spray_resistant]

The reason is that Ali had great fighters to fight in his era....that boxing writers and journalist claim them to be great.....

If you look at todays heavyweights.....what boxing writer/journalist says that any top ranked heavyweight outside the Klits is a very good fighter

just look at haye...he aintt done sh.it in the division..yet everyone is talking about him....in most other eras...Haye would just be a normal guy moving into the heavyweight division

Yet many ppl think he can beat Wlad, will he just be a bum CW when he gets ko'd too like so many other of Wlad's opponents?

[RubenSonny]

He did make him miss alot true, its what Byrd specializes in making bigger slower guys hit air.

What does it say about his mentality though that after that fight against Lewis he wanted to continue? He must have been in some serious pain to quit in a fight he was clearly winning then but not with that terrible cut above his eye in a fight he may not have won had it gone all 12 so IDK if that say anything at all really.

Yup, it shows that his motivation is not consistent.

[-The Game-]

vit has proven himself waaaay more than floyd ever has since. get out of here.

vit learned his lesson and his heart is nowhere near in question

Considering he retired for all those years...its debatable as to whether he has proven much.......

Also..Im not sure what he has done to prove his heart is not in question.....

[Steak]

1. Ahh so you nitpick which year Ali was in his prime, but not with Vitali right? It's irrelevant when his complete prime was? If ALi wasn't prime till 67, then Vitali wasn't prime till post-Lewis Experience.

Sidenote: Young ALi struggled against a bum before the first Liston fight.


2. Wrong to put down ATG's? But it's ok to put down a Heavyweight ATG? Which Wlad is, if not Vitali. If not by his sheer dominance fight after fight, or the KO percentage, then for the amount of title defences VS Top 10 Contenders.

first of all, Ali didnt fight Liston in 67, he fought him 4 years beforehand. youre an idiot! and Jones and Cooper were not bums.

please, let me know when I put down Wladimir. go ahead. Ive said multiple times that he will be top 10 when he retires. and for the record, Wladimir has beaten 10 top ten contenders: which is very good. but Ali had around 30.

Ali was a dumbass and a jerk, but you cant deny what he did in boxing.

[Spray_resistant]

Yup, it shows that his motivation is not consistent.

He had enough motivation to come back after bad injuries and is dominating maybe only losing 1 or 2 rounds in half a dozen fights, I think that says something positive about the guy outweighing 1 poor performance.

[-The Game-]

Yet many ppl think he can beat Wlad, will he just be a bum CW when he gets ko'd too like so many other of Wlad's opponents?

I would think that Wlad comes into the fight as the favourite........but lets look at this objectively...what has Haye done in the division to prove he can beat Wlad.....

Its more that people 'want' Haye to win as they feel it will inject some life back into the division

[cklmaced]

Name a good fighter a Klit bro beat and I could find 5 better on any other ATG resume.

Klitards still ducking this question I notice.

[Steak]

Yet many ppl think he can beat Wlad, will he just be a bum CW when he gets ko'd too like so many other of Wlad's opponents?

no, he will be added to Wlad's list of good fighters hes beaten.

[RubenSonny]

He had enough motivation to come back after bad injuries and is dominating maybe only losing 1 or 2 rounds in half a dozen fights, I think that says something positive about the guy outweighing 1 poor performance.

Dominating burger boys isn't impressive.

[Spray_resistant]

I would think that Wlad comes into the fight as the favourite........but lets look at this objectively...what has Haye done in the division to prove he can beat Wlad.....

Its more that people 'want' Haye to win as they feel it will inject some life back into the division

So is he a good fighter who lost to someone better or will he be cast off as a "hypejob" if he loses?