If Andre Berto KO Victor Ortiz will you give him any credit?

[swizz]

Ortiz is the best fighter Berto has ever fought so it would be a good win for him but its not a great win in the big scheme of things at all

yup you rite his best opponent who is really jr. welterweight coming of a draw

he could of found a better dance partner

[KingOfBox]

I can honestly say that I kind of feel sorry for Berto... He was supposed to get a crack at Shane and then tragedy struck. He is definitely overpaid... That is a FACT! However, the young lion has tried on numerous occasions to secure a big fight Pacquiao, Cotto, and other fighters... The real question here should be why is Cotto giving MAYORGA a title shot... and not trying to get a second belt against Berto. The answer to that question is Bob Arum. Bob was glad to make the fight with Pac/Shane when Shane left GBP but said himself that Sugar looked old and bad at this point just weeks before. Berto is simply out of opponents at WW...

Top Welters and what their status:
1. Mayweather has legal issues
2. Pacman is fighting Shane
3. Shane is fighting Pacman
4. Cotto is fighting MAYORGA
5. Margarito is going back to the drawing board.
6. Clottey probably moved back to Ghana and is nowhere to be found
7. Alvarez is fighting Matt Hatt
8. Aydin is unknown in the US
9. Zaveck unification would be decent BUT..... he's Zaveck
10. I thought Judah would have been a decent fill in, but he's busy at JWW.
11. Senchenko??? honorable fight against a top buck in the WW division... BUT...

Obviously anyone would be an idiot to defend Berto for fighting Freddy Hernandez and others... but you still have to give him credit for taking care of his business when he is in the ring. I think Ortiz/Judah/Senchenko/Maidana/Alexander/Khan/Alvarez are all decent matches for him. He should get Pac next if Floyd doesn't

[reneg_2]

I doubt Berto hits harder than Maidana...I don't see a KO. IF anything it'll be a TKO. But I don't see it happening. I see this fight going 12. To be honest I think Ortiz punches harder than Berto. But this fight is gonna be about Ortiz's power vs. Berto's speed. Lets get it on!

[reneg_2]

More importantly do u really think Berto could actually beat Cotto? u can't be serious if u do, now a rematch with Collazo or Cintron who is willing to fight Berto at 3pm would be good fights......

Or even that Shane Mosley fight even if he looses to Pac, they should make that happen, cuz I know Pac can't KO Mosley, and if Berto has all this power maybe he can be the only one (not)

I personally do think Berto can beat Cotto. Cotto and Ortiz have a similar style...so I guess Berto has the edge against Ortiz as well.

And please don't EVER mention the FROG Cintron again. That guy is a fkn disgrace.

[Pullcounter]

wow... who voted yes

[swizz]

I can honestly say that I kind of feel sorry for Berto... He was supposed to get a crack at Shane and then tragedy struck. He is definitely overpaid... That is a FACT! However, the young lion has tried on numerous occasions to secure a big fight Pacquiao, Cotto, and other fighters... The real question here should be why is Cotto giving MAYORGA a title shot... and not trying to get a second belt against Berto. The answer to that question is Bob Arum. Bob was glad to make the fight with Pac/Shane when Shane left GBP but said himself that Sugar looked old and bad at this point just weeks before. Berto is simply out of opponents at WW...

Top Welters and what their status:
1. Mayweather has legal issues
2. Pacman is fighting Shane
3. Shane is fighting Pacman
4. Cotto is fighting MAYORGA
5. Margarito is going back to the drawing board.
6. Clottey probably moved back to Ghana and is nowhere to be found
7. Alvarez is fighting Matt Hatt
8. Aydin is unknown in the US
9. Zaveck unification would be decent BUT..... he's Zaveck
10. I thought Judah would have been a decent fill in, but he's busy at JWW.
11. Senchenko??? honorable fight against a top buck in the WW division... BUT...

Obviously anyone would be an idiot to defend Berto for fighting Freddy Hernandez and others... but you still have to give him credit for taking care of his business when he is in the ring. I think Ortiz/Judah/Senchenko/Maidana/Alexander/Khan/Alvarez are all decent matches for him. He should get Pac next if Floyd doesn't

cotto is at 154 tell berto to come up why should cotto go down

[swizz]

wow... who voted yes

for once we agree

[swizz]

I personally do think Berto can beat Cotto. Cotto and Ortiz have a similar style...so I guess Berto has the edge against Ortiz as well.

And please don't EVER mention the FROG Cintron again. That guy is a fkn disgrace.

lmao boy boy boy

i could also see cotto breaking his ribs and will

[El 7 Mares V.2]

Credit for what? KO'ing an Junior Welter without any heart? pffffft...Berto sucks and so does Ortiz. **** em both.

[abpadilla10]

u cant descredit berto if he ko ortiz jus because ortiz has quit before u cant make that statement if uve never been in the ring before and actually fought, ya people dont want to see quitters, but back to the main point which is I think everyone would like to see berto step up his level of oppostion. Mike jones I believe would give berto a lot of problems LP