What is the difference how cotto won his first title from canelo?

[Antwuan Maxx]

I see fans blasting canelo for winning a vacant title against a supposed
bum,Yet cotto won his first major title like that.

At the time, Cotto-Pinto was a match up of two top undefeated prospects at junior welterweight. While Alvarez-Hatton is more or less a match between a top prospect and a journeyman who's not even in the same weight class. Big difference.

[goblin213]

*** you!!! You were the one bringing up the southeast caribbean north American WBO silver title to somehow justify Pinto as some great fighter.

Im just showing you how idiotic you sound when the truth is Pinto and Hatton are the same class of fighter.

Pinto and Cotto fought for the WBO belt. Pinto had the silver belt of WBO. Now when there is a vacant belt who deserves to fight for the title more than the guy with the silver belt kind of like Canelo with the WBC. Pinto was a undefeated ranked fighter on the WBO lightweight ratings at the time. What has Hatton done other than fighting 3 opponents with the combined record of "99-3-3" at WELTERWEIGHT like you just said?

[gauze]

148-154 is a division! There is no such thing as the 154 pound weight division! There is such a thing as the junior middleweight division which is any fight that takes place between 154-148 pounds.

so why not make junior middleweight* (148-150) for the people who dont wanna be in title fights with people who may weigh-in at 154, and then have junior middleweight (148-154) for everyone else. that way there can be more interim, emeritus, diamond and silver titles and maybe they can even unify the titles between jr middle* and jr middle but they might need to have a catchweight somewhere between 150 and 152. 151.75 i would imagine.

[ELHURACAN58]

Hattons last 3 opponents have a combined record of 99-3-3 before he beat them. What were the combined records of last 3 fights before pinto fought cotto?

Come on dude by that logic I wouldve betted against Donaire when he fought Darchinyan.

Which reminds me, with the crappy opposition Donaire had in his record before he fought Vic, did filipinos had him as the favorite.

Im making this comparison because if you go by the opposition of both fighters, Vic would fit Cotto's record as the better one, and Pinto would fit as Donaire's record as the weakest.

We saw how that turned out, even though you and I can agree that if we look at records, Pinto was more dangerous to Cotto, than Donaire was to Vic.

[goblin213]

And we're not talking about what kind of a fighter Kelson Pinto turned out to be. It's what he was at the time when he fought for the belt. Pinto "WAS" undefeated, decorated amateur career, promising prospect, and a ranked lightwelterweight, just like Cotto at the time. What's Hatton now? Is he a threat now?

[onechance87]

Funny that you bring this up as way before Canelo was even known, a lot of Mexicans on here would diss Cotto for his Vacant titles wins. What came first, the Cotto or the egg?

lol the cotto or the egg?I'm not falling for ur mind games lol

[AP♠]

I see fans blasting canelo for winning a vacant title against a supposed
bum,Yet cotto won his first major title like that.

Everyones at some point had won a vacant belt OR have had a chance to win one.the difference is they skipped 5,6 contenders.no offense, but as much crying vanes does imo he a shot at an upset against canelo

[ELHURACAN58]

You know, now that I think about I should be shot for arguing about boxing with a guy with UFC avatar and sigs who calls ricans island ****.

Wheres the ignore button?

[AP♠]

When cotto won his first belt he never looked back.he wiped out the 140 division at the time before moving up.anything to a brawler to a slick fighter.ricardo torres,to chop chop corley.not pretty but made his defenses.ppl criticize vacant belts but don't look at the defenses.hell had it been not for cotto growing out of his 140 shell he would of destroyed hattons overratedass before mayweather.i predict canelo winning and milking the belt for a while against less opposition, which is practical now in day in boxing.all due to his promoters

[jrosales13]

I'm not saying that Kelson Pinto is anything, but the dude deserved the title shot at the time. Both guys did.

Both were highly rated by the WBO, and both were competing at 140. That is the main and important difference.

Even though this is not a good reason, I think it was a rematch from an amateur fight that Pinto beat Cotto if I'm not mistaken. Cotto had another one of those amateur rematches -that he lost- against Abdullev(sp?).