Froch is a great example why resume is so important

[Dirk Diggler UK]

what? hatton is the total opposite of froch.

in-ring: hatton had an exciting style before he started doing his hold-n-hit bit. froch's style isn't as exciting.

out-of-ring: hatton is "average-man". he's like the homer simpson of the UK... drinks beer, fat, eats alot, etc... froch isn't "average-man", froch is somewhat elitist and dismissive which makes it harder to relate to him.

What the *** are you on? The fight with Pascal was a candidate for FOTY. The Taylor fight was a thrilling come from behind KO. Kessler was another FOTY candidate. AA was just a clinic. The only ***** fight was Dirrell and that was not his fault.

Froch has a very appealing personality, dry sense of humour with hilarioys one liners.

Like i said, you tend to speak on ***** you dont have any idea about.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

I cant say I totally agree. Pull is over the top sometimes but I think he's close on this one. Hattons appeal was that he is a regular guy. I seriously doubt the UK will come in groves for Froch like they did with Hatton. I mean, They made a song for this guy. Froch has been a little snooty in the past but I have seen his attitude calm a little and with that change came more of a fan base even in the States. I used to be anti-Froch but he's growin on me at a slow slow pace.

No one said he would be as big as Hatton but with more backing from tv companies etc, he'd be at least as big as Khan or Haye.

Btw, its not a song made for Hatton, its a song thats been sung for years around football grounds. Froch has a song too.

[Pullcounter]

I cant say I totally agree. Pull is over the top sometimes but I think he's close on this one. Hattons appeal was that he is a regular guy. I seriously doubt the UK will come in groves for Froch like they did with Hatton. I mean, They made a song for this guy. Froch has been a little snooty in the past but I have seen his attitude calm a little and with that change came more of a fan base even in the States. I used to be anti-Froch but he's growin on me at a slow slow pace.

yep....

froch has grown on me too. what kinda turned it around for froch was a combination of a few things...

1) dirrell backing out of the super 6 because of "neurological problems" and then suddenly returning after he doesn't have to fight ward anymore. not to mention kessler backing out of the super 6 because of his "eye problem" even tho the mofo drove home from the press conference in his sport's car. this made froch's stock go way up for toughin it throw to the semi-finals.

2) froch has proved that he can talk the talk and walk the walk. before it seemed like braggadocio and arrogance, but he proved himself by outlasting dirrell and kessler, and outfighting taylor.

3) froch showed that he isn't just a toughman, but he can actually fight with skill, which he showed against AA. the only way he could've improved on that performance was to stop AA, but he just doesn't have enough skill to do it.

khan got his fanbase handed to him on a silver platter, froch had to fight tooth and claw for his small fanbase, but imho, that makes froch more likable, especially considering how ****in cheap team khan is.

[Porter's Dad]

People who have said "Frock sux" and "Zaghe would slappy him silly" in this thread are missing the point; which was that Carl has shown his truth worth by compiling such a stellar resume. And he isn't even done.

Froch loses every hypothetical fantasy fight going. He does it in the ring instead.

You think he sucks? Fine. But can you respect his resume?

As for why he isn't a huge star; it's baffling. It might be Hennessy. Whatever you say about Warren, he knows how to his fighters into the public consciousness and broker the right deals with his contacts. What was the attendance for the Mitchell vs Kats fight, 22k?

Carl should be a mega-star over here, especially given the dearth of genuine world class sports stars we have.

[Pullcounter]

What the *** are you on? The fight with Pascal was a candidate for FOTY. The Taylor fight was a thrilling come from behind KO. Kessler was another FOTY candidate. AA was just a clinic. The only ***** fight was Dirrell and that was not his fault.

never said froch isn't exciting, just saying that before hatton started holding and hitting, hatton had the MORE exciting style.

Froch has a very appealing personality, dry sense of humour with hilarioys one liners.

hatton has a more appealing personality, with a better sense of humor.

granted hatton doesn't have great one-liners like froch, but with froch you're laughing at him more than with him... i can't help but laugh whenever froch talks about himself in the 3rd person "the cobra" this and "the cobra" that. and that mofo always talks about his granite chin...

Like i said, you tend to speak on ***** you dont have any idea about.

yeah... ok... that's why hatton is still more popular than froch... I don't know what I'm talking about? c'mon guy.

[Pirao]

Yes, the ****er has cost me money and e-points but I have to give credit where it's due, Froch is a credit to the sport.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

never said froch isn't exciting, just saying that before hatton started holding and hitting, hatton had the MORE exciting style.


hatton has a more appealing personality, with a better sense of humor.

granted hatton doesn't have great one-liners like froch, but with froch you're laughing at him more than with him... i can't help but laugh whenever froch talks about himself in the 3rd person "the cobra" this and "the cobra" that. and that mofo always talks about his granite chin...


yeah... ok... that's why hatton is still more popular than froch... I don't know what I'm talking about? c'mon guy.

I know Hatton is more popular dip*****. Im saying that Froch could be a bigger star with better backing here in the UK. Come on guy ffs

[Pullcounter]

No one said he would be as big as Hatton but with more backing from tv companies etc, he'd be at least as big as Khan or Haye.

doubt it.

haye and khan are explosive and more exciting. both are chinny so every fight could be a dangerous fight. both have great speed and good power.

froch doesn't have that explosiveness and because he can take a pounding, his fights don't have the same kinda threat level haye and khan does. not to mention he is somewhat slow of speed and and his power is good but not great.

I doubt froch even with a great promotional push can be as big as khan or haye. the only way he could possibly be as big or bigger is if khan loses to mccloskey or if haye gets destroyed by wlad.

Btw, its not a song made for Hatton, its a song thats been sung for years around football grounds. Froch has a song too.

yeah, but no one knows his, and everyone has heard of hatton's.

[MACAQUEINBLACK]

Calling Hatton humble is an insult to a genuinely humble guy like Mikkel Kessler who hasn't marketed himself on fake modesty.

A humble boxer doesn't charge his fans (the fans he is suppose to be thanking for staying up to ****** o'clock to watch him take on v Floyd Mayweather) £15 to see him take on Juan fúcking Lazcano. I remember the advert "This fight is for all my fans".....then there's other ****** shít where he's actually said in interviews "The fans like me 'cause I'm right modest I am"....any one who openly call themselves modest aren't modest. Then there was Ricky firing Billy Graham believinh that it was Graham's gameplan which failed against Mayweather, nothing to do with Ricky's lack of ability, oh no. Then refusing to pay Graham the agreed amount for the Mayweather fight, which Graham had to chase up through lawyers.

Then the joining in and ridiculing of Pacquaio and Roach with Floyd Sr.

Ricky Hatton, humble? Pull the other one.

Note the use of apostrophes. I'm talking about a persona that can be marketed, ie. 'humble Ricky Hatton'. I also pointed out that, while their personas are nuanced on the surface, Ricky and Carl possess a similar core appeal/charisma (which breaks down the superficial characterizations and correctly identifies them as spin to hook people into following a character).

So you just wasted a few paragraphs, LMAO.


I'm imagining 'Alan Partridge' is one of those *************** Hattonites who spent hundreds of £££ on special meet-and-greet events and ended up stuck in a tent while Hatton was off living it up and hanging with well-heeled people in some VIP room.

You know, one of those guys who got wise after they were fleeced. =P

[Pullcounter]

I know Hatton is more popular dip*****.

finally the moron gets it. hatton retired still gets more press than froch active. that's how big hatton is compared to froch.

Im saying that Froch could be a bigger star with better backing here in the UK. Come on guy ffs

froch could become a bigger star, but he'll never be as big as haye or khan unless haye or khan lose in a big way.