Latest Ring Magazine Rankings, Donaire OVERTAKES Martinez and JMM to grab #3 spot....

[Kagami Taiga]

Froch's resume ****s on Wards.

Froch has beat:

Pascal by UD
Taylor by KO
Dirrell by SD
Abraham by UD

Ward has beat:

Miranda by UD
Kessler by TD
Allan Green by UD
Bika by UD

it does but i reckon that neither of them will make the p4p list until after they beat each other.

[Doctor_Tenma]

It wasn't life and death at all IMO.

Moreno would clearly in both fights, regardless of the SD.

What I remember was there never being a need for a rematch, and Sidorenko getting outclassed in the rematch.

[KILLA RIGHT]

He should be behind
floyd
sergio
pac
jmm

[OpaiSoma]

Martinez inhereted the Overrated status from Paul Williams. Compare the two notable wins from Donaire and Martinez. (Paul Williams + Pavlike) vs (Darch vs Montiel).

IMO Martinez is still untested. Pavlik was exposed by Bhop and Taylor, he was probably going downhill having that problem in his arms and alcholism. Paul Williams is the most overrated fighter of all time with no defense and only uses his size advantage over his opponent.

Darch and montiel was on top of their game when they lost to Donaire. Its a no brainer.

I want Martinez to fight fighters like Pirog, Bute, Froch,Kessler- solid fighters before we know where he belongs.

[IronDanHamza]

im not saying it isnt legit. it isnt great. it isnt darchinyan and montiel. sydorenko wasnt devastated by moreno but his stock dropped heavily after those fights. would i say he was prime after that?? no. i didnt see his next fight, true. but the fact thathe hast had any fights recently tells u wat he thinks about his career at this point. sydorenko was always good imo, but he was never that great.

You've lost me here. The fact he hasn't had much fights recently?

He fought Donaire like 2-3 months ago. And his fight before that a few months prior to the Donaire fight.

Sydorenko has been considered a top 5 Bantamweight since 2006 and still was when Donaire fought him. That's all there is too it man, credit where its due.

His first 2 fights at Bantam have been against two top 5 Bantams, one that was considered #1 by The Ring.

[Spray_resistant]

Froch should easily be on there before Segura and the Ring can eat a wee wee for ranking Nonito above Sergio after his only notable win since Darch 4 years ago while Sergio has been putting in good work regularly.

[-PANDA-]

Bradley has unified the titles at his weight class twice now and has face more top 5 opponents then Donaire(if I'm not mistaken)I believe Bradley deserves to be where he's at..The real B.S. is Froch not making the top 10 list and Donaire being in front of Martinez..

well donaire moved up and bradley doesnt have any significant wins above 140 so u cant really compare the two in that regard

bradley shouldnt be on there until he unifies with khan...he isnt even the linear champ yet. campbell (nc), peterson (ud), witter (sd), holt (sd) and alexander (td) isnt that impressive to me

[Rome-By-Ko]

Martinez inhereted the Overrated status from Paul Williams. Compare the two notable wins from Donaire and Martinez. (Paul Williams + Pavlike) vs (Darch vs Montiel).

IMO Martinez is still untested. Pavlik was exposed by Bhop and Taylor, he was probably going downhill having that problem in his arms and alcholism. Paul Williams is the most overrated fighter of all time with no defense and only uses his size advantage over his opponent.

Darch and montiel was on top of their game when they lost to Donaire. Its a no brainer.

I want Martinez to fight fighters like Pirog, Bute, Froch,Kessler- solid fighters before we know where he belongs.

Dude Martinez is to small to go to SMW..

[Shadows]

It wasn't life and death at all IMO.

Moreno would clearly in both fights, regardless of the SD.

The only fight on Moreno's resume that I could actually see being a SD is the first Cermeno fight.

The other ones were clear wins for him, should've been UDs.

[Kagami Taiga]

You've lost me here. The fact he hasn't had much fights recently?

He fought Donaire like 2-3 months ago. And his fight before that a few months prior to the Donaire fight.

Sydorenko has been considered a top 5 Bantamweight since 2006 and still was when Donaire fought him. That's all there is too it man, credit where its due.

His first 2 fights at Bantam have been against two top 5 Bantams, one that was considered #1 by The Ring.

lol...ur a sydorenko fan rite?? ok so was donaire fighting sydorenko when he did a step up or a step backwards from the darchinyan win? to me it clearly was. was sydorenko completely outclasssed by moreno? to me he was. did u think he was a risk to donaire when he fought him? i thought it was a pointless fight.