Latest Ring Magazine Rankings, Donaire OVERTAKES Martinez and JMM to grab #3 spot....

[Bushbaby]

Martinez inhereted the Overrated status from Paul Williams. Compare the two notable wins from Donaire and Martinez. (Paul Williams + Pavlike) vs (Darch vs Montiel).

IMO Martinez is still untested. Pavlik was exposed by Bhop and Taylor, he was probably going downhill having that problem in his arms and alcholism. Paul Williams is the most overrated fighter of all time with no defense and only uses his size advantage over his opponent.

Darch and montiel was on top of their game when they lost to Donaire. Its a no brainer.

I want Martinez to fight fighters like Pirog, Bute, Froch,Kessler- solid fighters before we know where he belongs.

This guy fired his E-guns at me for talking down Pacman,then he returns with this!!Pavlik was exposed by B-Hop & Taylor.Pavlik koed Taylor once & almost twice.He was undefeated at 160 before Martinez.But if Pavlik was exposed,what would u call Margarito at the hands of Mosley & Mosley at the hands of Floyd,I call that ur a big ****in hypocrite.Too bad ur E-guns shoot blanks.

[DoktorSleepless]

Sergio Martinez beat the #4 p4p fighter to get the #3 spot. I don't get how Donaire beating the #7 p4p fighter is a better win than Martinez beating the #4 p4p fighter. Plus Martinez' KO was better. Donaire should be #4, not #3.

[Rome-By-Ko]

well donaire moved up and bradley doesnt have any significant wins above 140 so u cant really compare the two in that regard

bradley shouldnt be on there until he unifies with khan...he isnt even the linear champ yet. campbell (nc), peterson (ud), witter (sd), holt (sd) and alexander (td) isnt that impressive to me

Every fighter you named there was dominated and all(except Peterson)was highly ranked..He did not KO umm but he really out boxed umm..I really think Bradley beat Holt by UD but I'm not sure..

[Doctor_Tenma]

Damn, I've been here since 06, this isn't even my original account. But weren't we all critical of Donaire? I always said he fought weak/ undersized opposition since beating Vic. If we go by rankings then I guess you could say Sidorenko was a good win, but watching those two Moreno fights...he doesn't look like he had much to offer.


I guess it's all preference.

[Rome-By-Ko]

well donaire moved up and bradley doesnt have any significant wins above 140 so u cant really compare the two in that regard

bradley shouldnt be on there until he unifies with khan...he isnt even the linear champ yet. campbell (nc), peterson (ud), witter (sd), holt (sd) and alexander (td) isnt that impressive to me

He did win by UD..

[Shadows]

Damn, I've been here since 06, this isn't even my original account. But weren't we all critical of Donaire? I always said he fought weak/ undersized opposition since beating Vic. If we go by rankings then I guess you could say Sidorenko was a good win, but watching those two Moreno fights...he doesn't look like he had much to offer.


I guess it's all preference.

Sidorenk had faced good competition and had a solid resume. I don't think he beat Agbeko, but he deserved the nod in the first Cordoba fight IMO and beat Poonsawat. Haven't seen the second Cordoba fight though.

Moreno and Donaire were just bad oponents for him.

[£-4-£]

I do not agree,in my opinion Martinez has beaten better fighters than the 2 guys above him.So Martinez should go up,with Donaire,Marquez & B-Hop bringing up the rear.This is my opinion on the mythical pfp,which holds no bearing on reality.There is no need for anyone else to get mad & throw red k's,(like the ***** boy top crank likes to do).

Montiel and Darchinyan are both future Hall of Famers, and Donaire beat them in their primes.

Williams and Pavlik can't really be classed as future HoF'ers yet (especially Williams).

prime-Montiel + prime-Darchinyan > prime-Williams + prime-Pavlik.

Donaire's resume > Martinez's

[IronDanHamza]

lol...ur a sydorenko fan rite?? ok so was donaire fighting sydorenko when he did a step up or a step backwards from the darchinyan win? to me it clearly was. was sydorenko completely outclasssed by moreno? to me he was. did u think he was a risk to donaire when he fought him? i thought it was a pointless fight.

Not particularly, I'm a Moreno fan in terms of the Bantams.

Well it was Nonito's first fight at Bantam, against a top 5 Bantam in one of the deepest divisions today, a guy who has been in the top 5 since 2006.

He also stopped him, a guy who has never been stopped before.

If you find that pointless or unimpressive for someones first fight at a new weight class then fair enough, thats your opinion.

However, I disagree.

[welcometosaigon]

The hack editors at the ring have the shortest memories ever. All that matters to them is what happened yesterday. Their ratings are a joke.

[IronDanHamza]

The only fight on Moreno's resume that I could actually see being a SD is the first Cermeno fight.

The other ones were clear wins for him, should've been UDs.

I can agree with that, bro.

There's no way the first fight with Sydorenko was an SD.