Originally posted by Di Bushbaby
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So Martinez is the fighter that should be moved down huh??
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Originally posted by joelab75 View Postif you are looking for Pac to fight someone as good as him you cant find anyone. Mayweather is inactive. Sergio is not in his division. even before the fight against Margarito he said his next fight would be in 147 lbs. Manny's opponents was supposed to lose because thats how good Pac is. Pac and FLoyd are 2 or 3 levels above anyone. Thats why we expect them to win everytime.
Thats the big difference. Pac was supposed to beat those guys and Donaire wasnt suppose to win in amazing/dominating fashion. Donaire and Montiel were suppposed to be an equal talent and the destruction of Montiel made Donaire an instant star. i wouldnt put Donaire above Sergio or even JMM yet.Originally posted by bojangles1987 View PostSee, that just sounds like you won't give Pacquiao credit unless he fights someone who can beat him, completely disregarding that there is NO ONE except Mayweather in his weight range that can beat him. What's he supposed to do?
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Originally posted by Di Bushbaby View PostSeriously??There is no one at 147 that has a prayer in hell of beating Pacman??Or Floyd??I don't know about that.The Punisher constantly said he could make welterweight,Floyd & Pac didn't want it.Floyd retired again & Pacman fought Margarito for the 154 title,(Sergio can fight there) & now he's fighting Mosley.Are U guys saying that it's a foregone conclusion that he beats the Punisher,that's why it's ok that he fights Mosley??Or are U saying that no one at welterweight can beat them so the division is shot to **** so therefore he should just beat up on shot,past prime fighters??
And no, no one at welterweight has a shot in hell of beating Pacquiao. Paul Williams hasn't fought at welterweight in like two or three years, when he does, he enters the conversation. You can't punish Pacquiao for not fighting a competitive fight when he fought two of the best welterweights in the world in his last three fights and beat the hell out of them.
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.. mythical ratings based on personal preference.
Martinez hasn't moved down from your #1 spot right? At the end of the day.. that's all that should matter. Everyone has different opinions on who they feel should be #1.
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Originally posted by Di Bushbaby View PostExactly,Floyd semi retired,Pacman beating shot past prime fighters who ain't looked good in years.
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Originally posted by bojangles1987 View PostMove Mayweather down all you want, he isn't fighting. But it was only three fights and little more than a year ago that Pacquiao beat the hell out of arguably the best welterweight at the time, Miguel Cotto, and not even a year ago that he beat the hell out of Joshua Clottey, who had never clearly lost a fight. You can't move him down after fighting Margarito, that's just ridiculous.
And no, no one at welterweight has a shot in hell of beating Pacquiao. Paul Williams hasn't fought at welterweight in like two or three years, when he does, he enters the conversation. You can't punish Pacquiao for not fighting a competitive fight when he fought two of the best welterweights in the world in his last three fights and beat the hell out of them.
I am blaming team Pacman for who he fights.The Punisher constantly said he could make 147 to fight the best there.That's where the big money fights are between Floyd & Pacman.Team Pacman chose 3 fighters they know can't beat Pacman.
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