Comments Thread For: Haye vs Povetkin: David, Sauerland Discuss The Fight

[Joeyzagz]

Interesting ......

Whenever Vitali vs Lennox fight comes up on these boards, I constantly read, from the hardcore Klit fans that Vitali had just 2 weeks to prepare for Lennox .... not recognizing that it was a 2 weeks notice for Lennox as well AND BOTH were preparing for another fight.

Vitali was preparing for 2 years, not 2 weeks. Lennox was grossly out of shape coming off a year long layoff while Vit was active and in tip-top.

Eh, no..

Chisora is stay busy, Wlad's been ready to fight Haye all along, but he has lost patience with the guy who keeps lying and pulling out. He cannot trust a guy who constantly says he will fight but doesn't follow through, why should he.

Wlad needs to drop that stay-busy bull**** and fight a memorable opponent for once in his life. No one will remember his meaningless exhibitions 50 years from now...

Do you know how many fights Joe Frazier had? About 25 less than Wlad has now, and he is ranked much higher all-time. Thats because Frazier fought quality and didnt waste time with 14 fight prospects to pad his record.

Great Fights is what boxing needs, not farces designed to keep GlassWlad busy.

[jknightx]

If wlad didnt want to be "rusty" and wanted a "tune up"why did we not hear this at the start of thier negotitations?

why did they bother starting to sort out venue and date if wlad wanted a tune up first??.

why agree germany and july 2nd if he then wanted a "tune up stay busy" fight so close to this date that it makes it near impossible for the unification fight to actually happen.

why fight adamek in september for no belt,when he could have fought someone and been fine to fight haye in september??.


the number one ranked heavyweight should NOT be fighting a 14 fight novice with no style and no chance to beat him.

so your saying wlad doesnt trust haye so he will never fight him??.

dont see why wlad did not get someone on the undercard as back up if he dont trust haye.

dont see why he didnt get haye to agree if either of them pulled out then either one would pay the other a huge amount of thier next fight purse to him.

still yet to hear anyone argue and discredit my points on wlads amout of fights per year and gap between fights!.

still yet to hear how wlad can definately fight 9 weeks or less after a fight without any problems what so ever with preperation and promotion being done properly and done with justice to such a huge mega unification fight that would be watched all over the wolrd.

All this is just is just your opinion.And as for promoting this fight,it has been promoted to high heaven already.The only true fact is Wlad stated he could fight in 9 weeks.(I am not saying he would be,I am just stateing that Wlad stated this) And HAYE canceled the july 2nd date stating the reason was becuase Wlad could not be ready in 9 weeks(once again this is what Haye stated to the press,not saying it is right or wrong) But in the end it was HAYE WHO WENT AND STATED THE HE WOULD NOT FIGHT WLAD ON JULY 2ND. not my words his.

[jknightx]

why should haye believe wlads claims that he will be ready,i mean wlad dropped out of chisora fight 2 days before and his managers gave 2 different injuries and dates of recovery,he was spotted playing golf!.
lol hes ready for haye,yet it goes totally agiasnt his past history of fights per year,and gap between fights?

not a very convincing argument,"hes ready" o if he says he is lets just ignore all the facts on his career, and ignore highly likely things that can happen that make him NOT ready.

your still not able to argue wlads corner for his fights per year and fights gap at this age and time in his career!.

a mega fight does need promotion,the public,who will be the non boxing fans,the sport fans but not boxing fans will not be aware of a fight happening with such short time of build up for it.there the ones who make the fighters the most money.

obviosuly doesnt earn as much with lesser preperation does it!.

idiot,haye has a belt,its a unification fight,you dont get no unification without both guys belts!.

Haye doesn't have to believe,just agree to the fight on july 2nd,if Wlad suddenly pulls out Haye has a gotcha moment over Wlad,.If Wlad Doesnt pull out ,then we have a mega heavy weight fight.

[dvb]

All this is just is just your opinion.And as for promoting this fight,it has been promoted to high heaven already.The only true fact is WQlad stated he could fight in 9 weeks.(Iam not saying he would be,Iam just stating that Wlad stated this) And HAYE canceled the july 2nd date stating the reson was becuase Wlad could not be ready in 9 weeks(once again this is what Haye stated to the press,not saying it is right or wrong) But in the end it was HAYE WHO WENT AND STATED THE HE WOULD NOT FIGHT WLAD ON JULY 2ND. not my words his.

your argument is that we should believe his claims?.and its haye's fault for not believing wlads unlikely claims!.thats weak man.

stop just taking wlads word on ****,hes clearly avoided haye this time round.

and whats worse is he is fighting a non fight that is shameful and has no reason what so ever to do this next fight,atleast haye got money and demand for his **** fight,and he didnt con anyone into saying fraudley is good like wlad is saying about,he said he would destroy fraudley,and he did.

are you not going to argue the facts on wlad and see how hard it is to believe that he would not and could not do what he claimed?.

[Squizz]

Bottom line: Haye will never fight a Kilt because he's scared. And Adamek is getting the fight with Wlad, and he deserves it more than Haye. Purely based off his win over Arreola, which is a much more impressive win than anything Haye's done at HW. Case closed.

[jknightx]

its very obvious hes going to fight someone way better than chisora will ever be.

it will be chageav(if he gets passed,despite him being ill)

or povetkin most likely.

much better fight than chisora novice.

You mean like 38 Yr old shot John Ruiz or 39 never was Audley Harrison? or maybe even 39 year past iT MORMECK?

[dvb]

Haye doesn't have to believe,just agree to the fight on july 2nd,if Wlad suddenly pulls out Haye has a gotcha moment over Wlad,.If Wlad Doesnt pull out ,then we have a mega heavy weight fight.

if haye agress,wlad pulls out and he has wasted his time,haye still has to fight his mandatory aswell,so he has less time later in the year to fight vitali or wlad.

if wlad doesnt pull out,he is coming of a fight with chisora,he could go in injured,could go in with overtraining due to no rest after the chisora fight.

he would have a short camp and short sparing to properly prepair for haye's style,which is nothing like chisoras!.

he would rest and have a short camp.

or not rest and go in overtained,but still underspared for haye.

people would not give haye proper credit as this would be all good excuses to why haye wins if he does so.

im sure haye said he had to fight his mandatory may 21, so he would have even less preperation time,and less time promoting the fight to the public who do not follow boxing closely enough to know of a fight happening on short notice.

if haye didnt have to fight a mandatory,he goes into the fight with better preperation and sparring,more fresh than wlad.

i dont want either to have a advantage or disadvantage going into the fight.

[dvb]

You mean like 38 Yr old shot John Ruiz or 39 never was Audley Harrison? or maybe even 39 year past iT MORMECK?

lol,the mandatory,and the fight that was massive money and big event!.
ye.

[jknightx]

still waiting for peole to try argue my points on wlads fights per year and gap between fights swaying towards him being unlikely to fight the dates he said he would fight.

but actually he came out at late and said those dates dont make sense.

and why should haye and the wba just believe wlads hard to believe claims that he can fight in this highly unlikely space of times.

as if the networks would have bought the fight with chisora v wlad happening so close to the haye v wlad megafight!.

schafer even said wlads claims were ******.

Once again you are saying becuase Wlad has never had to fights so close together he cannot do it. once again is just your opinion.George Forman once fought 2 guys the same night and he had never done that befor until that night.The only who one that can deside wether Wlad could do it or not is Wlad.It is Wlad decision.And the only way we could have known if he could do it or not is if Haye had agreed to fight him on july 2nd.Everything is just your,mine,and every ones OPINION!.

[dvb]

Once agin you are saying becuase Wlad has never had to fights so close together he cannot do it.Witcj=h once again is just your opinion.George Forman once fought 2 guys the same night and he had never done that befor until that night.The only who can deside weather Wlad could do it or not is Wlad.It is Wlad decision.And the onlly way we could have know if he could do it or not is if Hyae had agreed to fight him on july 2nd.Everytihning is just your,mine,and every ones OPINION!.

no i did not say never,i said not since the year 2000.
wlad is wlad,his career says he not going to fight 3 times a year anymore,and wont fight 2 different dates for 2 different fights so close together.

if the man cant do light training without getting injured 2 days before a fight,how does he manage 2 or even 3 fights,3 "tough" fights as he claims,fight them so close together.

foreman fought 2 bums in an exhibition fights,coming back from his lost to ali.

the same night by KO wins. and he didnt have to train twice for it,so your point is totally off the point.
its logic you idiot.

i posted facts on wlads careers,they point towards him being full of ****.

your opinion is to blindly trust wlad despite everything pointing towards him talking total crap.


you just believe wlad,but ile use logic and common sense thanks.